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BFG R1 tires.
Once you experience an R Comp tire on the track, there is no going back. Once warmed up, difference in traction over even a good street tire is night and day. Car will turn in places you could never have imagined. Got a little over two full seasons on my last set so not ridiculously expensive.
I haven't experienced them yet really didnt think they would last that long 2 seasons sounds good....
I use Continental slicks, as Rick stated you will never run street tires again. I buy them off kijiji. Approx $75-100 each.
You should have dedicated track brakes. One experience of brake fade into a corner is all it takes.
I've personally only run Hawk pads for no reason really. Hawk HPS pads don't work in my experience.
Hawk HP+ front and rear is what I'm currently using. Work great, reasonably priced, but may not last as long as other pads.
Plain old Ford (brembo) rotors too. Just can't kill those rotors.
Expanding on the brakes, fluid is extremely important. You want a fluid that doesn't boil as easily as stock. I've been using SuperBlue for several years, though no longer available due to its colour. Will be switching to their amber fluid once my current stock of Blue is exhausted.
While we talk about all kinds mods to make our rides perform better, the most important one is a driver mod. Until you have some seat time pushing your car around a road course or drag strip, you will be the weak link. Your stock ride will be more than capable to put a perma-grin on your mug.
CG Lock. Spend your energy driving not holding yourself in your crappy stock Fox seats.
I ran Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 this year that’s what I had, hawk hps, and motul 5.1
Impressed with the fairly budget price tires- got the job done better than my continental dw ( sorry conti fans)
Motul fluid held up but definitely need changing.
Hawk hps - disappointing- spongy ,brake fade initial bite good but that disappears- cooked them too
but I guess it got the job done I didn’t go into the grass mind you I don’t go “ Brad Speed” lol
- for data and video I used TrackAddict- free version lets you record 3 u have to delete to record more- $11.99 paid version unlimited
U can Bluetooth your obd2 as well and wifi external GoPro
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oh and my rims are now flat BLACK thanks HPS lol
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In terms of brake fluid I have had great success with Motul DOT 5.1 in my past vehicles. I am due in my Q and will be running it again. Definitely will be upgrading front rotors and pads all around.
Tried a few before settling on tried n true Super Blue. Have enough for one more full flush then it'll be hunt for a suitable replacement.
Last session it held up, but I had more tire grip this session and pushed deeper .. huh? Lol u know what I meanQuote:
Originally Posted by Scrape
Anyway I was quicker this session I may try something else next session
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Sorry to hear on the pads, initial bite and feel seemed excellent.Quote:
Originally Posted by newbiestangowner
Track ap, how well does it work? Problems or things that aren't cool with it?
I've never driven on road course track and I'm chomping at the bit to get there - It's not to say I don't drive hard I have some very technical short cuts on my way home from work and exercise the car well thru them. I always here the importance of brakes and I have to ask this question because brakes in the old days where always a second thought...are extreme brake setups more important for automatic cars vs standard cars or is it equal?
Bring it by my place Ron and I will get them cleaned up for you. PM me and we can make an arrangement for time. If my car was a summer toy and had the occasional track event I would definitely move up to the RBF 600.
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Originally Posted by newbiestangowner
^^ TrackAddict works great
Works by gps so type your track name and it comes up- I ended up buying it
Speed and course lay out is on screen and g force, brake
Mind u it probably not as accurate as what you real racers have but for recreational use , not disappointed one bit
Plus video output looks cool.
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Have not stepped up to r-comps yet as I drive to the track on my tire setup. I’ve always run the Nitto NT-05’s and have been very happy with them on my set-up. I’ve had 2 sets so far. Could have gotten another season out of the last set, but I must have run or slid over something that took some chunks out, and on one tire I had a groove that cut into the belts.
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Next year, going to be sporting a set of Nankang NS2r’s
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And G-Loc R10 pads on the Ford (brembo) rotors
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Hawk street/race pad is the best I've used yet. It's never faded and has excellent cold bite. Down side is its noisy and dusty
I simply wash and wax my wheels regularly to keep the dust from wrecking the wheels
For brake fluid I use Mopar dot4. Never had any issues with it and if it's good enough for a viper and SRT vehicles then
It's good enough for me lol
Michelin pilot super sport tire has been the best track capable tire I've used . Lots of grip both dry and wet so you don't have to worry about getting caught in the rain. I've got 7 track days on mine the the tread wear is awesome without any chunking
Damn it I got the wrong Hawk pads! Oh well .Quote:
Originally Posted by 98 Snake
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You can never have enough brakes lol You might not like all the dust and noise it your dd your car other wise they are awesome pads but are kinda pricey
end of day run
here is short clip using Trackaddict for those that don't have it
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^ Now that sir is very cool.
Have any full / multi laps clips?
In regards to the CG lock
I looked and could not find it for sale and in stock, websites down and it seems they are not around anymore.
Couple companies make 3 point harnessess to use without a bar and bolt to factory locations but the cost and install wasnt worth it to me.
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I was thinking of getting these for next session, I may have used too much leather conditioner on the seats
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clever...
Really? This pops up as one of the first google hits:Quote:
Originally Posted by NickD
http://www.rallysport.ca/safety/cg-lock.htm
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https://www.camarodepot.ca/interior/...seat-belt-lock
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SHOFT? that hardly seems like a replacement for CG-Lock. That's a shame. The CG-Lock was a great product. Guess I better hang onto mine.Quote:
We have now launched SHOFT to replace CG-Lock. It's lighter, easier to fit and live with and has got top 5* ratings from the press. See why at www.SHOFT.co.uk - October 6, 2015
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Originally Posted by ZR
oh i finally figured out why vids are only max 3 mins-
RaceRender free edition ( edits Track addict) 3 mins max
if anyone knows of another one that does it longer please let me know thanks
That is Bad Ass, thanks Ron.
I get my fluids changed every spring. Oil, trans, brake and rear end. I may do the trans more than once depending on how many events I’m planning on doing for the season. All OEM Ford fluids. My front breaks were upgraded to the 6 piston Brembos in the spring of 2016 before the track day. I hammer on them in a full weight convertible and they’ve never faded on 15-20 minute sessions. They haul the car down quick every time. I have replaced the back brakes this year (Ford OEM), but the fronts are still going strong so far after several track days. I’ve used MT Street Comps and now on Nitto NT05’s. Both decent tires and won’t break the bank. I drive to the track, drop the pressures a bit and go and have fun. Then drive home. The car seems to grip very well for street tires. I did do the Eibach Pro Kit when I first got the car and I have nothing but good things to say about it. No too firm on the street and does enthusiastic and track ventures very well
Yup. I love this car.
She looked great out there,Quote:
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Any problems with stones or bugs Chris with the new grill?
Runs cooler too I would think.
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What pressure do you run on the street that you are dropping pressure at the track? I guess the better question is: what pressure are you running the tires (hot) at the track?Quote:
Originally Posted by Armen
Just asking because I usually have to add air pressure at the track, then drop it before heading home.
I have used stoptech (formerly power slot) rotors in the past so that’s what I went with for this time. I tried out the hawk street/race pads and they worked surprisingly well. I never got brake fade with my heavy boat anchor. I also installed brake cooling ducts though so that could have helped. I never track a car with out a good flush of the fluid. Well the night before the track day I realized that I had emptied out my stock pile of ford HD performance brake fluid....oops. So once the parts place opened at 8am I grabbed stoptech stb 600 fluid. Full system flush when home and good to go. If you track your car often during the season you should at least flush the lines a few times and top up the reservoir. This time for me was the first I think my car has ever had. It was brown and black. Not cool. One of my fav upgrades was my rear control relocation brackets and tubular lower control arms with heim joint ends! Wow. The rear of the car feels 100% more tight. I
This is the Cervini C series grille which I did this year replacing the Lethal Performance grille delete. I would think the grille delete was able to get more air in there but I was just never completely sold on the looks. The Cervini looks much more aggressive and almost has a GT350 look to it. No issues with debris other than some bugs.Quote:
Originally Posted by newbiestangowner
The recommended tire pressure on my car is 35psi cold. On the street, once warmed up that equates to about 40psi. But if I were to run that on the road course, those pressures would go much higher due to the increased heat and make the tires too greasy under those extreme conditions. So I lower it to about 30psi at the track so they come up to about 40psi under track conditions. The front left I may drop an extra pound or two because of the high speed right corners.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedSN
Oh, okay, didn't realize the recommended tire pressures on the S550 was that high.Quote:
Originally Posted by Armen
Mine is 30 psi (cold) on the street. So I'm usually adding a bit of air when I get to the track.
Hard for me respond on individual upgrades as all were done at the same time, but I felt like the whole package worked flawlessly for my first time at the track in the car
IRS with full tilt boogie throughout
Torsen t2r
MM coilovers
Koni double adjustable struts
Bilstein single adjustable shocks
MM solid steering shaft
MM front control arms
mM steering rack bushings
Steeda full length sub frames
MM SS flex hoses front and rear
Cobra rear calipers with drilled and slotted rotors
245/40/18 Nitto NT05 tires all around
Alignment done at Apex motoring in Mississauga
Car already had Baer front brakes
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Nice collection of goodies!
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Spoke to Joe - owner of black gt350 previous track day session(Spring) and took a ride along. I didn't know that if you bought a gt350 you got admission for this.( on my wish bucket list)
- maybe its included in the price- so Laurence when you buy your gt350 I'd be more than willing to take the admission ticket off your hands if you are not going to use it :D
Utah
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Dam that would be a ton of fun.
Brake pads.
While my first set of CarboTech pads worked out well, second set failed (fronts, friction surface failed + rears cracked n split) in short order. This year I've made the switch to G Loc all round on fresh rotors. Inspection after our last track day, pads are standing up very well and appear to be substantially easier on the rotors. Yes expense up front gets your attention (7-800 for front and rear pads + rotors) but their smooth n easy to modulate performance and how well they are standing up = money well spent. Yes they also make pads that are suited for street use only or something closer to a dual purpose as well.
On the street I use EBC greens up front and OEM Ford on the rear riding on drilled n slotted rotors for the bling factor. After initial wear in, the fronts have little to no dusting, dead nuts quiet, exceptional initial bite (especially cold) and for how hard any of us can drive on the street, good braking at speed with a predictable amount of fade under conditions you'd expect it. Brake fluid, I used several of the "go to" brake fluids with poorish results. Initial feel after flush n bleed, really good pedal but all fell off the map quickly when pushed to the point of extreme on track days. Get the fluid toasty, pedal gets soggy n quickly goes down hill from there, allow to cool, substantial improvement but well short of when fresh. Switch to Super Blue (sorry, no longer available because of color), after flush n bleed, pedal firmer vs any of the other fluids. Track day, even at the point of boiling n streaming out the master cylinder, reduced pedal feel but still providing decent brake action. Allow to cool for a full session, right back to where it was n feeling mint. I've heard the amber replacement is the same formula but with a different coloration but no actual experience so can't say for sure.
Your killing me Ron lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by newbiestangowner
Awesome list right there!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabe
Just some road course reading/ resource / video tutorials
**if you scroll down to bottom of page there are tutorials on various subject matter**
https://driver61.com/uni/racing-line/
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