View Full Version : Who's going to win? Trump or Clinton?
Not who you want to win, but who do you think will win?
As of today most polls are dead locked.
Laffs
11-07-2016, 04:45 PM
America finishes dead last in all of this. FWIW I think Hilary will eek out a small win over the Donald.
Armen
11-07-2016, 04:46 PM
I think Clinton will edge it out. But it's gonna be close. Just my guess.
5.4MarkVIII
11-07-2016, 04:53 PM
Regardless of the popular vote the electoral collage will give it to Clinton. Would probably be best case scenario. We have enough socialist left lovers as it is. If Trump wins there is a lot of Bernie Sanders lovers that say they will move to Canada.
RedSN
11-07-2016, 05:05 PM
Regardless of the popular vote the electoral collage will give it to Clinton.
Because it is rigged! (you have to read this with a Trump accent)
where is the revolution and anarchy option for this poll?
Because it is rigged! (you have to read this with a Trump accent)
where is the revolution and anarchy option for this poll?
Apparently the militia will call to arms if Clinton wins.
I'm sure this is just fluff but still.
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/11/02/491830/Trump-Three-Percent-Security-Force-Chris-Hill
Chris Hill, leader of the Three Percent Security Force militia, said if Clinton beats her Republican opponent Donald Trump on November 8, they would not remain silent, Reuters reported Wednesday.
“This is the last chance to save America from ruin. I'm surprised I was able to survive or suffer through eight years of [President Barack] Obama without literally going insane, but Hillary is going to be more of the same,” said Hill, who goes by the name of “Bloodagent.”
bluetoy
11-07-2016, 07:56 PM
Who cares it's a foreign country. As long as their dollar plummets I'll be happy
RedSN
11-07-2016, 08:07 PM
Who cares it's a foreign country.
Except it's not 'just' a foreign country. Like it or not, we're related to them.
Mellow Yellow
11-07-2016, 08:49 PM
I think it's possible Trump wins.
A lot of Democrats that voted for Obama, I think, will stay home. Obama promised change, but for the average African American nothing has really changed.
Also the new health care increases just hit last week, I know not everyone is affected, but that could swing some voters to Trump.
The 2nd amendment supporters may come out in droves and vote for Trump, because Clinton wants to try and take away the 2nd amendment. There are almost 83 million registered gun owners in the US, if most vote for Trump, I can't see how Clinton wins.
^ Good points, especially those with guns.
RedSN
11-07-2016, 11:38 PM
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
...drafted in the late 1700's .....when Great Britain was knocking on their doorstep. Now the slogan of the NRA
Who cares it's a foreign country. As long as their dollar plummets I'll be happy
We all should care because this election will effect Canada in one way or another.
USA is our number one import and export country.
Hillary has said she will leave NAFTA alone but Trump has threatened to tear it up.
Not because of Canada but jobs heading to Mexico.
If this happens this a potential problem for Canada.
Now its not just as easy as tearing it up but new tariffs and duties could be introduced.
This election could be very good for us or a complete disaster.
A few stats on our relationship with the USA:
◾Canada purchased US$338 billion in goods and services from the U.S. in 2015 – we are their largest customer
◾Canada and the U.S. are the world’s largest trading partners as more than US$670 billion in goods and services are traded annually between our two countries
◾Canada is the top export destination for 35 of the 50 U.S. states
◾Our countries exchange approximately $1.6 million in goods and services every minute
◾Nearly 9 million U.S jobs depend on trade and investment with Canada
◾The U.S. is the largest destination for Canadian direct investment abroad, totalling $448 billion in 2015
baddbullitt
11-08-2016, 08:51 AM
As much as I'd rather see Trump win it, I think it's gonna be Killary who gets the W!
http://i.share.pho.to/238868cc_o.jpeg
Sswitch
11-08-2016, 12:57 PM
We all should care because this election will effect Canada in one way or another.
USA is our number one import and export country.
Hillary has said she will leave NAFTA alone but Trump has threatened to tear it up.
Not because of Canada but jobs heading to Mexico.
If this happens this a potential problem for Canada.
Now its not just as easy as tearing it up but new tariffs and duties could be introduced.
This election could be very good for us or a complete disaster.
A few stats on our relationship with the USA:
◾Canada purchased US$338 billion in goods and services from the U.S. in 2015 – we are their largest customer
◾Canada and the U.S. are the world’s largest trading partners as more than US$670 billion in goods and services are traded annually between our two countries
◾Canada is the top export destination for 35 of the 50 U.S. states
◾Our countries exchange approximately $1.6 million in goods and services every minute
◾Nearly 9 million U.S jobs depend on trade and investment with Canada
◾The U.S. is the largest destination for Canadian direct investment abroad, totalling $448 billion in 2015
This is what I've been freaking out about.
r-model
11-08-2016, 02:43 PM
I feel that Trump is the lessor of 2 evils, he comes across as a buffon but is not as dumb as he looks, that other one is so crooked that there is not one straight bone in it's body!
Just my $0.02 worth
RedSN
11-08-2016, 03:53 PM
...is not as dumb as he looks
“Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest -and you all know it! Please don’t feel so stupid or insecure, it’s not your fault.” -Trump, 2013
In my experience, dumb people generally boast about how smart they are.
5.4MarkVIII
11-08-2016, 04:48 PM
“Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest -and you all know it! Please don’t feel so stupid or insecure, it’s not your fault.” -Trump, 2013
In my experience, dumb people generally boast about how smart they are.
You don't build a multinational multi billion dollar empire being an idiot.
Armen
11-08-2016, 05:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v7XXSt9XRM
CDNfyrfytr
11-08-2016, 06:19 PM
Hahaha! I think of that episode every time there is an American election!
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Armen
11-08-2016, 06:21 PM
This one isn't so funny tho...
***caution... language and behaviour that certainly isn't going to 'make America great again'***
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4lUiqW9CBM
Armen
11-08-2016, 06:38 PM
Donald Trump in.... The Dead Zone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_snbagejb8s
StAnger
11-08-2016, 07:26 PM
Doesn't matter who wins, the nation is already so polarized and will only become more so.
bluetoy
11-08-2016, 08:04 PM
We all should care because this election will effect Canada in one way or another.
USA is our number one import and export country.
Hillary has said she will leave NAFTA alone but Trump has threatened to tear it up.
Not because of Canada but jobs heading to Mexico.
If this happens this a potential problem for Canada.
Now its not just as easy as tearing it up but new tariffs and duties could be introduced.
This election could be very good for us or a complete disaster.
A few stats on our relationship with the USA:
◾Canada purchased US$338 billion in goods and services from the U.S. in 2015 – we are their largest customer
◾Canada and the U.S. are the world’s largest trading partners as more than US$670 billion in goods and services are traded annually between our two countries
◾Canada is the top export destination for 35 of the 50 U.S. states
◾Our countries exchange approximately $1.6 million in goods and services every minute
◾Nearly 9 million U.S jobs depend on trade and investment with Canada
◾The U.S. is the largest destination for Canadian direct investment abroad, totalling $448 billion in 2015
And all your caring, stressing and worrying accomplishes what? There is absolutely zero you can do about the outcome. Its a different country.
And all your caring, stressing and worrying accomplishes what? There is absolutely zero you can do about the outcome. Its a different country.
Not stressed.
But we all should be vested in the results.
Peoples job's will most likely be effected.
Boomer605
11-08-2016, 10:09 PM
...drafted in the late 1700's .....when Great Britain was knocking on their doorstep. Now the slogan of the NRA
And when rifles were muzzle loading flintlocks. Not automatic weapons like the M16, AK47, MP5 etc. etc. that any knuckle dragging halfwit can purchase today. The unrestrained gun culture will be the downfall of this once great country. Donald Trump with access to nuclear weapons. Doesn't give me the warm fuzzies.
Mellow Yellow
11-08-2016, 10:39 PM
The results are currently MUCH closer than most pundits predicted (9:39pm)
NickD
11-08-2016, 10:42 PM
And when rifles were muzzle loading flintlocks. Not automatic weapons like the M16, AK47, MP5 etc. etc. that any knuckle dragging halfwit can purchase today. The unrestrained gun culture will be the downfall of this once great country. Donald Trump with access to nuclear weapons. Doesn't give me the warm fuzzies.
Read the second amendment in full, think about what its saying in the context that it was written I should have the right to a fucking Abrams tank, its not about hunting its not about sport its god given right to protect myself against any threat including my own government.
92redragtop
11-08-2016, 10:58 PM
I feel that Trump is the lessor of 2 evils, he comes across as a buffon but is not as dumb as he looks, that other one is so crooked that there is not one straight bone in it's body!
Just my $0.02 worth
He's also crooked and has chosen to break the law where it suits him - been charged and paid settlements to government and gaming commissions for example (just did it in different arenas so opposite side of same coin).
TheMustangShow
11-08-2016, 11:15 PM
He's also crooked and has chosen to break the law where it suits him - been charged and paid settlements to government and gaming commissions for example (just did it in different arenas so opposite side of same coin).
Trump has no criminal record and Billery has a much greater chance of getting one.
Trump didn't get Americans Killed with poor decisions, nor run the State Department as a pay to play Ponzi scheme.
What a message this Victory will send to the Hand Out Liberals and Politically Correct Pinheads Worldwide.
Imagine our Gearbox Prime Minister TrueTWAT trying to renegotiate NAFTA with TRUMP?
Maybe he'll bring his dingbat Mother, Maggie, in to help out? LoL!
Mellow Yellow
11-08-2016, 11:19 PM
He's also crooked and has chosen to break the law where it suits him - been charged and paid settlements to government and gaming commissions for example (just did it in different arenas so opposite side of same coin).
Don't disagree with you, but what concerned people more, I think, was what did she do in the context of the US sovereignty and security......still not proven but suspected by many.
MTS got a few points out also.
Boomer605
11-08-2016, 11:33 PM
Read the second amendment in full, think about what its saying in the context that it was written I should have the right to a fucking Abrams tank, its not about hunting its not about sport its god given right to protect myself against any threat including my own government.
The context was that citizens had the right to bear arms responsibly for their own defence and protection against any recognized legitimate threat be it a bear or a British Redcoat. That's what a citizen militia was for. Unlike today's paranoid delusional wingnut "militia" or asinine "freemen on the land". And actually at that time people did need to hunt if they wanted to eat meat. They were too busy trying to build a life and put food on the table so I doubt they had much time for skeet shooting.
Let me know when you get your Abrams tank, you may have some trouble getting it across the border but then again a guy down my street just picked up a surplus US Army Hummer, so you never know. What kind of mods would you be contemplating? :tongue-new:
NickD
11-09-2016, 01:27 AM
The context was that citizens had the right to bear arms responsibly for their own defence and protection against any recognized legitimate threat be it a bear or a British Redcoat. That's what a citizen militia was for. Unlike today's paranoid delusional wingnut "militia" or asinine "freemen on the land". And actually at that time people did need to hunt if they wanted to eat meat. They were too busy trying to build a life and put food on the table so I doubt they had much time for skeet shooting.
Let me know when you get your Abrams tank, you may have some trouble getting it across the border but then again a guy down my street just picked up a surplus US Army Hummer, so you never know. What kind of mods would you be contemplating? :tongue-new:
Being that Canadians are nuts I'd be living in Texas and as far as mods, 36" gold Dayton rims and candy paint
R3troGT
11-09-2016, 01:29 AM
A little early but
Hillary; YOU ARE FIRED
92redragtop
11-09-2016, 01:39 AM
Trump has no criminal record and Billery has a much greater chance of getting one.
Trump didn't get Americans Killed with poor decisions, nor run the State Department as a pay to play Ponzi scheme.
What a message this Victory will send to the Hand Out Liberals and Politically Correct Pinheads Worldwide.
Imagine our Gearbox Prime Minister TrueTWAT trying to renegotiate NAFTA with TRUMP?
Maybe he'll bring his dingbat Mother, Maggie, in to help out? LoL!
Like I said, he broke the laws in other arenas and paid settlements in lieu of charges being laid (like the Wall St guys).
Boomer605
11-09-2016, 01:43 AM
Being that Canadians are nuts I'd be living in Texas and as far as mods, 36" gold Dayton rims and candy paint
My brother lives in Houston. His text 20 minutes ago: "WTF !?! I'm coming home!"
92redragtop
11-09-2016, 03:42 AM
Looks like HC has conceded now.
Trumps win will equal either the start of the best years the US has seen in some time or the day US people made a mistake of epic proportions.
tulowd
11-09-2016, 08:58 AM
Looks like Republicans took the full Trifecta. Senate, House and the Oval Office.
USA Todays headline..... "Trumps Strength Makes for Close Contest" lol
These fucktards can't even say victory and Trump in the same sentence, since they were so against him.
tulowd
11-09-2016, 09:17 AM
Looks like Republicans took the full Trifecta. Senate, House and the Oval Office.
USA Todays headline..... "Trumps Strength Makes for Close Contest" lol
These fucktards can't even say victory and Trump in the same sentence, since they were so against him.
Edit; the publication time was 11 pm, so I'll give them a pass since the results were not final at that point in time.
RedSN
11-09-2016, 09:49 AM
"I'm reaching out to you for your guidance and your help so that we can work together and unify our great country."
Check that one off the list, America is great again.
Now on to: closing the border, kicking the illegals out, and start on that wall.
Not sure if this happened or not but...
“Apparently his campaign has taken away his Twitter. In the last two days, they had so little confidence in his self-control they said: ‘We’re just going to take away your Twitter,’” Obama said in Kissimmee, Fla. “If somebody can’t handle a Twitter account, they can’t handle the nuclear codes. If somebody starts tweeting at 3 in the morning because SNL made fun of you then you can’t handle the nuclear codes.”
And on Monday in Ann Arbor, Mich. Obama brought it up again: “If your closest advisers don’t trust you to tweet then how can we trust him with the nuclear codes?"
Trump has been known for putting his unfiltered thoughts on Twitter at all hours, which sometimes has run contradictory to the goals of his campaign. For example, the attempted outreach to Hispanics by tweeting a photo of a taco bowl didn’t quite energize the group the way he had hoped.
His aides have frequently been asked why they haven't just confiscated his Twitter password in an effort to focus his messaging. But his campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, told CNN last month it was not her job.
“It's not for me to take away a grown man's Twitter account,” she said.
Regardless of what team Trump says, his Twitter stream has been restrained in recent days with fewer personal thoughts and more campaign-event promotion.
94stang87
11-09-2016, 09:58 AM
Just picked trump in the poll lol
tulowd
11-09-2016, 10:05 AM
Glad that the election is over and I won't have to hear or read all the Liberal diatribe and bullshiat. Oval Office, the House and the Senate are all Republican, Trumps speech shows a willingness to fix the divide and work towards making America a unified and better place. The people have spoken, and they roared. God Bless America, sending positive vibes and wishing for a solid and prosperous future for ALL our American brothers and sisters.
TheMustangShow
11-09-2016, 10:10 AM
http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp129/JTBConsulting/Miscellaneous%20Pics/IMG_9508_zpsnsli0rti.jpg (http://s404.photobucket.com/user/JTBConsulting/media/Miscellaneous%20Pics/IMG_9508_zpsnsli0rti.jpg.html)
RedSN
11-09-2016, 10:25 AM
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TheMustangShow
11-09-2016, 10:34 AM
http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160224210637-donald-trump-wife-melania-pkg-ac360-00012626-large-169.jpg
Melania is going to be a much more attractive First Lady than Bill Clinton. LOL!
Laffs
11-09-2016, 11:56 AM
Defense stocks seem to like this.
TheMustangShow
11-09-2016, 12:14 PM
Defense stocks seem to like this.
Really a non-event Marketwise, so far, despite the Financial Fear Mongering by Media Libtards.
Laffs
11-09-2016, 12:35 PM
Really a non-event Marketwise, so far, despite the Financial Fear Mongering by Media Libtards.
Was interesting to see it go from an NBC reported "worse that 9/11" to an open barely with a blip.
5.4MarkVIII
11-09-2016, 12:44 PM
Not sure if this happened or not but...
You know that the president dosnt have open access to launch nuclear weapons right?
Its a shame that Obama jumped into the fear mongering to try and sway votes by implying Trump could just walk in a launch a nuclear war.
TheMustangShow
11-09-2016, 01:00 PM
You know that the president dosnt have open access to launch nuclear weapons right?
Its a shame that Obama jumped into the fear mongering to try and sway votes by implying Trump could just walk in a launch a nuclear war.
ObamaWINDBAG44 will speak at 12:30p today, which will hopefully, be his last speech and he will become a footnote in US History, written as the worst President in History. A "Community Leader"/Lawyer who was clearly overwhelmed by the task of POTUS, he increased the US Debt more than all the previous Presidents COMBINED and Polarized a Nation and made a fool out of himself on this year's campaign trail, he will watch all of his controversial and ineffective Policies be deleted from US Law by Q1 2017.
NickD
11-09-2016, 01:54 PM
ObamaWINDBAG44 will speak at 12:30p today, which will hopefully, be his last speech and he will become a footnote in US History, written as the worst President in History. A "Community Leader"/Lawyer who was clearly overwhelmed by the task of POTUS, he increased the US Debt more than all the previous Presidents COMBINED and Polarized a Nation and made a fool out of himself on this year's campaign trail, he will watch all of his controversial and ineffective Policies be deleted from US Law by Q1 2017.
Very well said JT, I'm curious though how he will be remembered in say a decade,
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JonsMustang
11-09-2016, 02:01 PM
ObamaCare. lol
You know that the president dosnt have open access to launch nuclear weapons right?
Its a shame that Obama jumped into the fear mongering to try and sway votes by implying Trump could just walk in a launch a nuclear war.
I didn't write it LOL
I just posted it and stated wasn't sure if it happened or not.
Pretty sure the current president was hoping people would read between the lines.
Something you clearly missed lol
5.4MarkVIII
11-09-2016, 06:15 PM
I didn't write it LOL
I just posted it and stated wasn't sure if it happened or not.
Pretty sure the current president was hoping people would read between the lines.
Something you clearly missed lol
I miss nothing. Lol
I've talked to a disturbing number of people that seem to think the president has a big red button on his desk that lets him launch nukes at will.
I just think it's too bad the president would stoop low enough to try and convince more people of that
Mellow Yellow
11-10-2016, 01:47 AM
I can not believe the number of protests because Trump won. So much sour grapes.
Nothing is going to change doing so, only creates problems. Deal with it and move on.
baddbullitt
11-10-2016, 08:01 AM
So many peeps think that were screwed.... But I'm not worried really. Not until something effects me directly.. I'm glad Trump got in. Now he's got the next 4 years to see if he can either turn that country around or make it 10 times worse.. I got my fingers crossed for our neighbors to the south!!
Ponyryd
11-10-2016, 08:18 AM
So many peeps think that were screwed.... But I'm not worried really. Not until something effects me directly.. I'm glad Trump got in. Now he's got the next 4 years to see if he can either turn that country around or make it 10 times worse.. I got my fingers crossed for our neighbors to the south!!
It would be very hard to make things worse than they currently are, Obama was/is an idiot, he smooth-talked his way in and left with his foot in his mouth. Trump is not a politician, but a businessman, it seems the US voters finally realized that all politicians are the same and they needed change to see anything improve, hopefully Canadians are smart enough to follow suit.
I can not believe the number of protests because Trump won. So much sour grapes.
I'll just leave this here.
https://s6.postimg.org/o42exvutd/IMG_9865.jpg
https://s6.postimg.org/fn2wmyq4h/IMG_9866.jpg
Mellow Yellow
11-10-2016, 08:22 AM
^^^ I think that reflects the number of black people that stayed home either because there were no blacks running or a statement regarding Obama's time in office.
5.4MarkVIII
11-10-2016, 08:40 AM
I'll just leave this here.
https://s6.postimg.org/o42exvutd/IMG_9865.jpg
https://s6.postimg.org/fn2wmyq4h/IMG_9866.jpg
Yep so many people were praising the electoral process before the 8th. People were condemning Trump for not saying before the vote that he would concede if he lost. They called it a slap in the face of the democratic system.
And then they lost and now they are bitching about the system. I was fine when it worked in their favor but not fine when it worked against them.
Ontariomystic
11-10-2016, 09:03 AM
It would be very hard to make things worse than they currently are, Obama was/is an idiot, he smooth-talked his way in and left with his foot in his mouth. Trump is not a politician, but a businessman, it seems the US voters finally realized that all politicians are the same and they needed change to see anything improve, hopefully Canadians are smart enough to follow suit.
Well said!
+1 on above.
Just wish he didn't come off as such an ass during the campaign.
RedSN
11-10-2016, 09:29 AM
Trump is not a politician, but a businessman, it seems the US voters finally realized that all politicians are the same and they needed change to see anything improve, hopefully Canadians are smart enough to follow suit.
We tried that, it was called Paul Martin.
TheMustangShow
11-10-2016, 11:04 AM
We tried that, it was called Paul Martin.
LOL!
Paul Martin came from a Liberal Family, with his father Paul Martin Sr. being a long serving Politician and PM Jr., himself, being elected to the house in 1988, long before he became Prime Minister and orchestrated a tax law change http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/csl-gained-from-tax-rule-changes-under-martin-opposition-charges/article1159605/ to benefit the Martin Family business.
It is a real Liberal Stretch to compare Paul Martin to Trump. LOL!
PM was an experience Politician and Lawyer, long before becoming PM.
Trump is also NOT a Lawyer, which is refreshing for a Politician.
http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp129/JTBConsulting/Miscellaneous%20Pics/IMG_9508_zpsnsli0rti.jpg (http://s404.photobucket.com/user/JTBConsulting/media/Miscellaneous%20Pics/IMG_9508_zpsnsli0rti.jpg.html)
TheMustangShow
11-10-2016, 11:25 AM
Yep so many people were praising the electoral process before the 8th. People were condemning Trump for not saying before the vote that he would concede if he lost. They called it a slap in the face of the democratic system.
And then they lost and now they are bitching about the system. I was fine when it worked in their favor but not fine when it worked against them.
+1
...and not sure what FB Koolaid Stream these numbers are from, many states have NOT certified their Results yet.
States have up to 25 Days to certify FEDERAL election results. http://nyenr.elections.state.ny.us hence, why the Electoral College does not submit their votes to Senate until Dec 28th, 2016. Those numbers posted are not Final.
I had a laugh today, evidently, over 11,000 of these Left Wing Toolboxes wrote in Harambe on their ballots, instead of supporting Hillary. There where many close races in Precincts where those "Gorilla" votes may have helped their cause. LOL
+1
...and not sure what FB Koolaid Stream these numbers are from, many states have NOT certified their Results yet.
States have up to 25 Days to certify FEDERAL election results. http://nyenr.elections.state.ny.us hence, why the Electoral College does not submit their votes to Senate until Dec 28th, 2016. Those numbers posted are not Final.
Every news media in the Country that's where LOL
She's on track to win the popular vote.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/09/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-popular-vote/
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-election-day/electoral-college-lesson-more-voters-chose-hillary-clinton-trump-will-n681701
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-electoral-college-victory-mandate/story?id=43426760
Armen
11-10-2016, 01:58 PM
We should replace all the LoL's in this thread with "so fuck you". It would read much better.
We should replace all the LoL's in this thread with "so fuck you". It would read much better.
But that would upset the "kool aid" drinkers :D
oh wait...
http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/tulsaworld.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/6/89/6899f00d-537e-5c63-8540-5a4acec66032/56ac3200c5cbb.image.jpg?resize=760%2C497
I do find it entertaining when select people think they know more than they do, but will have an excuse as to why they weren't wrong. Makes for entertaining reading.
In the mean time....
For die-hard Democrats holding out hope that they won’t have to live through a Trump presidency, there is a last, incredibly long shot for them latch on to — a surprise twist in the Electoral College.
Though Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 200,000, Trump has won the minimum of 270 electoral votes necessary to be elected president. As of late Wednesday, he had 290 to Clinton’s 228.
According to the Constitution, chosen electors of the Electoral College are the real people who will vote for president, when they meet on Dec. 19 in their respective state capitals.
However, there is technically nothing stopping any of the electors from voting their conscience and refusing to support the candidate to whom they were bound, or from abstaining from voting altogether.
There’s even a name for it: becoming a “faithless elector.”
The idea of electors reversing their vote is rarely discussed — and was most recently bandied about after the incredibly close 2000 election in which George Bush narrowly beat Al Gore. And electors going “faithless” is exceedingly rare.
Well over 99 percent of electors throughout American history have voted as pledged, according to an analysis done by the New York Times.
It does happen, though.
The last faithless elector reared his roguish head back in 2004, when a lone anonymous voter in Minnesota declined to vote for Democrat John Kerry and instead voted for Kerry’s running mate, John Edwards.
The rogue’s vote was purely ceremonial, as Bush already had 286 electoral votes, more than enough to ensure his reelection.
Faithless electors are technically barred in only 29 states from ignoring the will of the voters, though the penalties are light. And a faithless elector has never swung an election.
But given the high dissatisfaction with Trump among Republicans, a few faithless GOP electors could well go rogue next month.
One Texas GOP elector, Chris Suprun of Texas, a firefighter, told Politico in August that he finds Trump so unpalatable he’d consider voting for Clinton when he gets to Georgia’s capital on Dec. 19th.
Baoky Vu, a Decatur businessman, told the Atlanta-based news site AJC.com in August that he couldn’t stomach voting for Trump either, and was quietly convinced by local GOP leaders to resign as an elector.
Clinton would need more than 20 GOP electors to go rogue and vote instead for her — a mighty tall order.
Even then, the new, Republican-controlled Congress meets Jan. 6 to approve the electoral college vote, and would certainly vote to void any roguery, handing the victory firmly back to Trump.
The Founding Fathers created the electoral college because the were “afraid of direct Democracy,” according to FactCheck.org.
In fact, Alexander Hamilton thought the electors would make sure “the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.”
It remains to be seen, given Tuesday’s surprise election result, whether Democrats — and even some Republicans — who question the “requisite qualifications” of president-elect Donald Trump will push to revisit the Electoral College system
http://nypost.com/2016/11/09/the-one-scenario-that-could-still-get-hillary-into-the-white-house/
Armen
11-10-2016, 04:38 PM
^^^ If that actually happened, the USA would self destruct, imo.
RedSN
11-10-2016, 05:10 PM
Yeah, that's craziness. The people voted for him. Their the only ones to blame for happens next.
Actually, at this point, I want to see this experiment go.
There's a list of promises he made, stuff he said he would do. Lets see how many he checks off the list.
build a wall
get rid of affordable care
ban muslims
kick out serians
prosecute Hillary
strengthen the military
fix infrastructure
bomb the shit out of ISIS
bring back waterboarding
force Nabisco to once again make Oreos in the United States
deport all illegal immigrants
.....and MAKE AMERICAN GREAT AGAIN
Although I'm not sure what the benchmark for the last one is. Great "again" implies American was great at some point, but what point or time period that was, who knows? :shrug: the 50's?
Yeah, that's craziness. The people voted for him. Their the only ones to blame for happens next.
Actually, at this point, I want to see this experiment go.
There's a list of promises he made, stuff he said he would do. Lets see how many he checks off the list.
build a wall
get rid of affordable care
ban muslims
kick out serians
prosecute Hillary
strengthen the military
fix infrastructure
bomb the shit out of ISIS
bring back waterboarding
force Nabisco to once again make Oreos in the United States
deport all illegal immigrants
.....and MAKE AMERICAN GREAT AGAIN
Although I'm not sure what the benchmark for the last one is. Great "again" implies American was great at some point, but what point or time period that was, who knows? :shrug: the 50's?
Apparently (yet not confirmed) some of those have all ready been removed from his campaign website.
The plot thickens http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/stirpot.gif
TheMustangShow
11-10-2016, 05:27 PM
AZ and NH and MI still counting....there a chance Trump45 wins the POP Vote too, with those numbers being so close and that will be another box of kleenex the DEMs will need.
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/president
Dems are already Trumpeting Michelle Obama for 2020. https://forum.filezilla-project.org/images/smilies/silly.gif
Maybe Michelle didn't vote of Billary either...LOL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNj06em7cfo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNj06em7cfo
https://flyoverculturedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/obama-kool-aid.jpg
5.4MarkVIII
11-10-2016, 05:48 PM
Anyone who says look at the popular vote the majority of America didn't want trump.
Go to that link The Mustang Show put up and select the county maps
(I tried to link it or post it direct but it won't let me on the IPad:shrug::shrug:)
It's red. A lot of red.
And I'm sorry but with difference in popular vote a slim 0.2 % that's hardly the majority of America.
Laffs
11-10-2016, 09:13 PM
Anyone who says look at the popular vote the majority of America didn't want trump.
Go to that link The Mustang Show put up and select the county maps
(I tried to link it or post it direct but it won't let me on the IPad:shrug::shrug:)
It's red. A lot of red.
Population density....
Mellow Yellow
11-10-2016, 11:01 PM
Yeah, that's craziness. The people voted for him. Their the only ones to blame for happens next.
Actually, at this point, I want to see this experiment go.
There's a list of promises he made, stuff he said he would do. Lets see how many he checks off the list.
build a wall
get rid of affordable care
ban muslims
kick out serians
prosecute Hillary
strengthen the military
fix infrastructure
bomb the shit out of ISIS
bring back waterboarding
force Nabisco to once again make Oreos in the United States
deport all illegal immigrants
.....and MAKE AMERICAN GREAT AGAIN
Although I'm not sure what the benchmark for the last one is. Great "again" implies American was great at some point, but what point or time period that was, who knows? :shrug: the 50's?
It bugs me that the "ban muslims" shows up this short.....I believe the proper version included the statement that it would be a temporary measure until the US system could determine who was and who was not a terrorist.
5.4MarkVIII
11-11-2016, 08:27 AM
Population density....
Yes and that's why they have a sister that then do.
Look at here in Ontario last election. Biased of geography Ontario did not want the liberals back. But there are enough votes in Toronto to make the votes in the rest of Ontario meaningless.
What your end up with is a party that caters to one area and dont care about the rest.
Clinton assumed she would get the votes In the key areas and never bothered to campaign in a lot of areas that she should have. That's what cost her the election.
5.4MarkVIII
11-11-2016, 08:31 AM
It bugs me that the "ban muslims" shows up this short.....I believe the proper version included the statement that it would be a temporary measure until the US system could determine who was and who was not a terrorist.
It's the same twist they put on the Mexican thing. In the original statement in the contexts he was talking he said that the some of the Illigals that were coming from Mexico were rapist and murderers.
They shorten it and remove the context and now everyone says he called all Mexicans rapist and murderers.
And the grab them by the pussy thing. People say he admitted to assaulting someone by just grabbing them by the pussy
But what he said was when your rich they let you do anything you want, grab them by the pussy.
The way all the Clinton supporters went after him with all the celebs and and the non neutral media,they got what they deserved. LMAO. He just might surprise people,who knows. Time will tell.
TheMustangShow
11-11-2016, 10:41 AM
It bugs me that the "ban muslims" shows up this short.....I believe the proper version included the statement that it would be a temporary measure until the US system could determine who was and who was not a terrorist.
I call it the Liberal Alarmist Edit. It a is redaction of the full narrative to arose the response they want, not the one that would be generated by the actual facts.
One of the other Liberal Strategies is the quoting of information, without links or credit from the source.
If you cut and past small portions of these post and search them, you often find the information is from some Left Wing Koolaid site or Liberal Think Tank.
Thankfully, there are still enough Conservatives to curb the constant onslaught of misinformation and leftwing BS.
Mellow Yellow
11-12-2016, 10:31 AM
I'm not sure if the average person understands why there is an Electoral College system in the US.
I know I didn't fully understand it. This video helps. It's actually pretty ingenious and I don't see it getting changed soon.
https://www.prageru.com/courses/political-science/do-you-understand-electoral-college
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