Govt foreign worker program.

[ZR]

So the Feds are promising changes to the program, peeps here on the worker program are demanding immediate status in Canada vs the two year wait they have now. Govt knows companies are screwing over Canadian workers in favor of foreign workers because they can get away with paying them less and are obliged to offer zero security. Ok so this begs the question, with the ever growning numbers of legal Canadians out there unemployed, why to we even need the foreign worker program? Oh I'm sorry, big business elected them, now big business doesn't want to pay legit wages so they lobby to have the program put in place, promising not to abuse it, then of course they do...................yea, that never should have dawned on the feds.

[5.4MarkVIII]

In some cases companies have to bring in forensic labour to do the work that a large number of Canadians thing they are too good to do.
This isn't every case but a large number of them

[ZR]

I'm sure thats the case in at least some instances. Based on the large co's named in the news awhile back, bringing in the workers they employed was about greed and nothing but.

[ZR]

They promise transparency then do this.



Anyone who wants to know how many temporary foreign workers have come to Canada in the first half of 2015 will have to pay to find out, according to Citizenship and Immigration Canada.
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</aside>The request for payment comes more than a year after Employment and Social Development Canada, a separate department, promised it would publicly post such data each quarter in a press release (http://news.gc.ca/web/article-en.do?nid=859859) detailing changes to the Temporary Foreign Worker Program.
Instead, Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) told The Tyee it must pay a cost recovery fee for information about the number of permits issued for foreign workers in 2015. That's despite freely posting the numbers up to the end of 2014.
CIC said the employment ministry's promise to post data doesn't apply to it.
The government mades changes to the Temporary Foreign Worker Program in June 2014 after public outcry over employers using it to pay lower wages to foreign workers instead of Canadians.
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</path></g></svg> Join us and grow independent media in Canada (http://support.thetyee.ca/)</section></aside>Included in the changes was the promise by the employment ministry to publicly post worker data, along with approved Labour Market Impact Assessments (LMIAs), which an employer needs to bring a temporary foreign worker to Canada.
"To further increase transparency and accountability beginning in fall of 2014, [the department] will publicly post data on the number of temporary foreign workers approved through the [program] on a quarterly basis and will post the names of the corporations that receive LMIAs," the employment ministry stated in a June 2014 announcement.
Employment ministry refers to CIC
An access to information request to the employment ministry for the number of work permits issued up to May 2015 -- because such data has not been published -- turned up nothing but a suggestion to talk to Citizenship and Immigration Canada.
The employment ministry did not explain (http://www.esdc.gc.ca/eng/jobs/foreign_workers/lmo_statistics//index.shtml) why it has not publicly posted LMIA data since 2013.
CIC said the new figures are available, for a price. After The Tyee sent a screen shot of the government's promise to publicly post the data, CIC insisted it has posted it -- but only up to the end of 2014.
"Citizenship and Immigration publishes quarterly data for all of its programs on its website," said an email from an unnamed staff member. "The latest available is the fourth quarter of 2014. The screen shot you provided does not refer to CIC’s work permit statistics, but to [the employment ministry]’s LMIA statistics."
The most recent data posted (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/statistics/data-release/2014-Q4/) on CIC's page shows the number of valid permit holders as of Dec. 31, 2014. That means the number of temporary foreign worker permits issued in 2014 totalled 94,000, down from 118,000 the previous year.
Updated data to mid-2015 would give a better picture of the effects of changes to the program.
Permits can be valid for up to four years with reapplication, though it varies depending on the stream of the program under which the permit is issued.
Some estimate (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/temporary-foreign-workers-everything-you-need-to-know/article18363279/) the number of foreign workers in Canada at any given time as high as 500,000.

[ZR]

Gets even better, these idiots haven't even been tracking when or if temp workers left the country once their permits expired. Amazing how it didn't dawn on them to include that into their system up front. :facepalm:

The federal government has lost track of how many temporary foreign workers have overstayed their permits but plans to start exit tracking as early as 2018, says Employment, Workforce Development and Labour Minister MaryAnn Mihychuk.
“We really have no idea how many temporary foreign workers stayed in Canada,” Mihychuk admitted to iPolitics in an interview.
“We’ve built, because of this program, a huge underground economy of people that have not exited and we do not track that. We will, starting in 2018.”

[83 5.0]

Never liked how this prigram expanded past some seasonal workers to pick fruit etc.
We all know this is an expensive country to live in, if you paid the hotel maid, or the Timmies counter help a liveable wage, Canadians would work there. Funny growing up in the 60's / 70's , and having worked at golf clubs and restaurants going to school, they always found enough local people then to staff the places.
It seems mostly the big corps can afford to bring in a TFW, not sure how many moms and pops apply?

[5.4MarkVIII]

Sorry but jobs like tummies pay exactly what they should. It's a starting job not a career.
Part time jobs are meant for students. After that's it. It's not a job that "has to pay a living wage"

Besides untill they learn to pour a cup of coffee without screwing it up then need to stop complaining about what they make.

Every time I've had to hire I've been inundated with people who want to make huge dollars with no experience or schooling.

Sure they might be a few multinational multimillion doller companies that can afford to pay bigger wages for part time work. But force that and you will bankrupt small business who can't afford to pay a big wage for grunt work.

[92redragtop]

Too many government handout programs too so it pays better to stay at home and collect than go out to work in a hotel, etc. That said, it's too easy for companies to use this program to avoid hiring Canadians and the program has creeped into something much wider than it should be.

[R3troGT]

Could someone here define what "Canadians" means in this discussion? Curious in the responses.

[ZR]

JMO
I am not including anyone that is non citizen hired as a temp and or full time worker who is filling a highly specialized or unique position that otherwise could not have been filled at the time. To me, peeps that fall under that category are clearly the only part the govt got right. If under those circumstances, the temp worker number is say 500,000 at any given time, so be it.
Plan should have never had holes large enough a fast food franchise owner could fire his willing to work staff in favor of temp workers. At least one of the banks got caught up in the same kinda nonsense. It wasn't a case of could not find able bodied workers, greed had them choosing otherwise. In their defence, not sure if it was proven they did anything wrong beyond making the best of a loop hole.