Chicken Little here again - Thunderstorm/Tornado watch for S.Ontario

[StAnger]

Or is it the boy who cried wolf? Regardless, I think if you're in Southern/Central Ontario you should be weather aware. There isn't much standing in the way of storms today, but it could still fall apart and become just a rainy mess. That said, if and I mean IF things hold together we could be looking at large hail and tornadoes. Even Environtment Canada has issued a rare Moderate Risk.

[70XR7]

We need a little excitement. As much as we laugh when the entire state of Georgia closes down because they get an inch of snow, I bet the folks in Tornado Alley just laugh at us when we start to panic with these moderate warnings.

[stangstevers]

Yeah but we suffer through crap winters and 2 weeks of summer to not have to bother with Hurricanes and Tornadoes. :(

[ZR]

Better to be prepared if it does pan out.

[StAnger]

Not really a warning. It's just Environment Canada's (the Natioal Weather Service does it too) way of saying that it's a possibility. Think of it a precursor to a watch, which may come later on in the day with warnings like to follow if need be.

That said any warnings should be taken seriously today.

[Stephen06GT]

Tornado watch in effect for Caledon.

Watches

9:50 AM EDT Wednesday 10 June 2015
Tornado watch in effect for:
•Caledon
•Halton Hills - Milton

Conditions are favourable for the development of severe thunderstorms which may produce tornadoes.

Scattered thunderstorms will affect portions of the above regions late this morning and this afternoon. It is possible that a few of these storms could produce an isolated tornado.

Be prepared for severe weather. Take cover immediately, if threatening weather approaches.

In the event of a tornado, or if a tornado warning is issued for your area, it is recommended you take the following actions: Go indoors to a room on the lowest floor, away from outside walls and windows, such as a basement, bathroom, stairwell or interior closet. Leave mobile homes, vehicles, tents, trailers and other temporary or free-standing shelter, and move to a strong building if you can. As a last resort, lie in a low spot and protect your head from flying debris.

The Office of the Fire Marshal and Emergency Management recommends that you take cover immediately, if threatening weather approaches.

Environment Canada meteorologists will update alerts as required. Please monitor local media or Weatheradio. To report severe weather, send an email to storm.ontario@ec.gc.ca or tweet reports to #ONStorm.

For more information:
http://www.ontario.ca/beprepared.

[Blackmare]

Pretty much all of southern ontario is under that watch now.

[Not4you]

pretty important thread. how is the title relevant?

[99chromegt]

pretty important thread. how is the title relevant?

^^ I didn't click on it earlier because the tilted didn't hook me. Now I'm board so figured what the hell. Didn't expect this type of thread.

[Laffs]

Chicken Little kept crying the sky is falling, I think OP was referencing the fact he has many posted Weather Warning threads. Made sense to me.

[Not4you]

** goes to google chicken little **

[stangstevers]

https://ssl-static.libsyn.com/p/assets/2/1/c/f/21cf7393b832183b/sharknado.jpg

[Laffs]

** goes to google chicken little **

Honestly the forum has taught me wayyyy more about children's nursery rhymes and fables than I ever hoped.

[Stephen06GT]

Chicken Little kept crying the sky is falling, I think OP was referencing the fact he has many posted Weather Warning threads. Made sense to me.

This.

[Not4you]

Honestly the forum has taught me wayyyy more about children's nursery rhymes and fables than I ever hoped.

and a little mustang tech thrown in too??

[99chromegt]

Honestly the forum has taught me wayyyy more about children's nursery rhymes and fables than I ever hoped.

Oh go sit on a tuffet Laffs

[Blackmare]

I updated the title, just in case its confusing to other members.

Link to the environment Canada weather alert page for S. ON.

http://weather.gc.ca/warnings/index_e.html?prov=son

[StAnger]

I was being a little tongue and cheek earlier because most of the time these setups turn to garbage as the day goes on. Today is looking like the opposite, in fact from what I understand the GTA maybe under the gun come 6ish.

[Stephen06GT]

I was being a little tongue and cheek earlier because most of the time these setups turn to garbage as the day goes on. Today is looking like the opposite, in fact from what I understand the GTA maybe under the gun come 6ish.

Keep up the good work Chicken Little.

[StAnger]

Keep up the good work Chicken Little.

I do my best.

Also it should be mentioned that any storms now are merely the undercard for the main event.

[b1lk1]

Nasty thunderstorm going through Lindsay right now, couple close lightning strikes to me too. IF this is the warmup I am hiding in my basement for the show.

[Not4you]

Does anyone have a good link to a live weather view of the building storms??

I was looking at this one, but it is not really what I am after for our local area.

http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-74.34,43.92,869

[stangstevers]

Well... got caught in the rain and lightning... But Jesus Christ, does the traction control do anything other than the icon on the dash?

[70XR7]

Storm came and went in about 10 minutes. blue skies now

[RedSN]

Does anyone have a good link to a live weather view of the building storms??
I was looking at this one, but it is not really what I am after for our local area.


Maybe not as 'local' as you want, but I usually check the National Hurricane Center site for brewing storms before heading off for vacation.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=2

or this one
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/wfo/buf.html

[Laffs]

Does anyone have a good link to a live weather view of the building storms??

I was looking at this one, but it is not really what I am after for our local area.

http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-74.34,43.92,869

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude

[Not4you]

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude

wha, bruh?

[Armen]

Title thread: I was thinking falling debris.

Debris! Debris! Tornado passing right in front of us. Oh my God!

(see if St.Anger gets that reference)

[Armen]

Possible tornado reported to be touched down in York region heading towards Durham region....

[Armen]

Tornado moving towards Sunderland.

[KIDAGIN]

How's the weather in Orangeville Chris

[70XR7]

Guys... there's no such thing as tornadoes.
It's just that Chuck Norris hates trailer parks..

[83 5.0]

I was at a clients office in West Lorne today(near Chatham). Wind and thunderstorms ripped through and killed the power for about 3 hours. Needless to say I need to go back next Monday to finish up.

[Old Fart]

Stay safe guys and gals!

[StAnger]

Title thread: I was thinking falling debris.

Debris! Debris! Tornado passing right in front of us. Oh my God!

(see if St.Anger gets that reference)

You mean this video? Took me a little bit to find it, but I got it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17Cd-3z5gmQ


Great chase today though. Lots of rain, but some amazing structure. No confirmed tornadoes though, that said one almost touched down in Georgetown.

[Zexhuffer]

I didn't see anything but a lot of wind and some minor drops on the windshield in thornhill to newmarket

[Not4you]

yeah, it was really patchy. it was all around me but I seemed to be driving in a little patch of sun the whole way home.

[stangstevers]

Sky got pretty dark after the initial rain / storm. I was outside washing my car while the radio played tornado warnings every other minute.

[Armen]

Possible tornado reported to be touched down in York region heading towards Durham region....


Tornado moving towards Sunderland.

Just to note: The above were those new special alerts that came across the radio. This is the new thing they do now and I'll tell ya, it gets your attention. I was in the Tim's drive thru when they started coming across the radio, interrupting 680News.

The second one I posted said the tornado was moving towards Sunderland and "this tornado is very dangerous".

If no actual tornado touched down, I gotta say, this is kinda fkd. They made it sound like all hell was breaking loose.

[Armen]

You mean this video? Took me a little bit to find it, but I got it.

Yup, that was it! Good find.

[ZR]

Problem is, they get it wrong even a small number of times in a row, peeps will quickly learn to disregard. Perhaps the threshold for declaring an alert is too low? Don't know enough about predicting weather to have a real opinion.

[RedSN]

Just to note: The above were those new special alerts that came across the radio.
Was at the chiropractors office where they have the radio on as background music. They have it turned down so low that you could just barely hear the signal, but then not the actual warning. LOL, receptionist asked me: "Did you hear that? It's been doing that since noon."

[Armen]

Problem is, they get it wrong even a small number of times in a row, peeps will quickly learn to disregard. Perhaps the threshold for declaring an alert is too low? Don't know enough about predicting weather to have a real opinion.

I don't know if you heard these alerts yesterday, Rick, but for a second I thought maybe the Russians launched their ICBMs.

[ZR]

I didn't Chris, is there a link anywhere to em?

[RedSN]

Problem is, they get it wrong even a small number of times in a row, peeps will quickly learn to disregard.

http://www.mcbroom.biz/Public/Icons/Danger-Will-Robinson2.jpg

[stangstevers]

Problem is, they get it wrong even a small number of times in a row, peeps will quickly learn to disregard. Perhaps the threshold for declaring an alert is too low? Don't know enough about predicting weather to have a real opinion.

Same thoughts here. Although I will look at the weather radar and if I see nothing but thick nasty clouds coming my way, I'll take it more seriously. There are tell tell signs of nasty weather coming at you though like cumulonimbus (sp?), mammatas clouds, wind direction (or shift) and some trees will turn their leaves upside down during strong winds. I grew up around farmers :D

[RedSN]

^^^you forgot: "the sky turns green"

that's when I usually run for cover.

[Armen]

I didn't Chris, is there a link anywhere to em?

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/public-alerts

Scroll down till you see the pic of the speaker. Click on 'if you hear this'

Now imagine you're listening to news radio and it goes dead. And then that sound comes on. Then a computer voice... WARNING, WARNING...

I was like, wtf!?! I was 100kms away from 'the event' and I almost took cover myself, lol.

Reminded me of this scene from Threads:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZoVj_jGAO0

[stangstevers]

^^^you forgot: "the sky turns green"

that's when I usually run for cover.

That's when it will really hit the fan. Worst weather I've been in was the ice storm in Quebec and before that a small tornado or something strong cut through my small town, I was pretty young though and thought it was cool to see a roof cut off one house and land in another's pool.

[ZR]

Downright creepy sounding.
thanks Chris.

[StAnger]

Yup, that was it! Good find.

Would have made it a little easier if I didn't search Chuck Doswell or Warren Faidley. lol


Problem is, they get it wrong even a small number of times in a row, peeps will quickly learn to disregard. Perhaps the threshold for declaring an alert is too low? Don't know enough about predicting weather to have a real opinion.

I think there are two issues that EC should address. Both have the same simple solution too.

Most people assume when there are severe storms are forecast it'll come through as one big messy line of storms (which it usually does) whereas yesterday there were a couple discreet cells with one dominate cyclic super cell that I was chasing with a couple other guys. That said the way EC could address the warning issue at least in cases like yesterday, would be to use what's called a "polygon warning"*. A "polygon warning" is basically a targeted warning for areas that are likely in the path of the storm, instead of using the shotgun method of blasting out warnings for areas that MIGHT be in the path. As for putting most of Southern and Central Ontario under a tornado watch, given the setup for yesterday, I believe EC made the right call.


*Polygon warnings (http://www.srh.noaa.gov/images/bmx/aware/swaw_2010/web_version_pages_p6.pdf)

[ZR]

Thanks for your input.

[StAnger]

I have a few more photos to edit, but here's what I have already.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/133966292@N07/sets/72157654367863596

[ZR]

Killer shots dude.

[StAnger]

Killer shots dude.


Too bad it didn't drop a tornado. There's always next time, but it was cool to chase with Mark Robinson and Jaclyn Whittal from the Weather Network until we all got separated because of traffic. I ended up sticking with the two chasers I started out with, and we got a much better view of the storm.

[RedSN]

Windmill shots look amazing!

[Armen]

Would have made it a little easier if I didn't search Chuck Doswell or Warren Faidley. lol



I think there are two issues that EC should address. Both have the same simple solution too.

Most people assume when there are severe storms are forecast it'll come through as one big messy line of storms (which it usually does) whereas yesterday there were a couple discreet cells with one dominate cyclic super cell that I was chasing with a couple other guys. That said the way EC could address the warning issue at least in cases like yesterday, would be to use what's called a "polygon warning"*. A "polygon warning" is basically a targeted warning for areas that are likely in the path of the storm, instead of using the shotgun method of blasting out warnings for areas that MIGHT be in the path. As for putting most of Southern and Central Ontario under a tornado watch, given the setup for yesterday, I believe EC made the right call.


*Polygon warnings (http://www.srh.noaa.gov/images/bmx/aware/swaw_2010/web_version_pages_p6.pdf)

But what was interesting is that the 'alert' yesterday said 'THIS IS A DANGEROUS TORNADO'... Like, one was on the ground. It was a bit over the top, imo.

And really, what tornado isn't dangerous, lol.

[ZR]

Only safe tornado, da one dat doesn't happen.

[StAnger]

Windmill shots look amazing!

Thanks man!


But what was interesting is that the 'alert' yesterday said 'THIS IS A DANGEROUS TORNADO'... Like, one was on the ground. It was a bit over the top, imo.

And really, what tornado isn't dangerous, lol.

Maybe a little too cautious? Then again, maybe it's hard to be too cautious in a situation like that.

[5.4MarkVIII]

Little over cautious on the warnings Maybe. But I think it's good they are making an attempt.
I know it's different in the big cities. But there is an issue with the way they do stuff here in rual towns. I had this conversation last year with a couple local guys. In small towns our fire departments are all volunteer. All members of the departments have pagers but when ever there is a fire call they also sound the "fire alarm". The same alarm that's used for tornado warnings and any other pending disaster. The problem this has created. Is the town wide alarm is sounded once a week on practice night and anytime the fire department has a call. Didn't matter if it's an accident, fire or a false alarm at one of the mills of old folks homes. So everybody in the community has grown accustom to the alarm. It goes off and everyone ignores it. If a tornado was headed straight for my town and they sounded the alarm. No one would pay any attention.

[RedSN]

If a tornado was headed straight for my town and they sounded the alarm. No one would pay any attention.
Except the firemen would be out there to put out the tornado.

[Ghost Rider]

Funnel cloud in the Wick


to me it doesn't quit look like a Funnel cloud, close I suppose...but that's what Environment Canada called it, said it did not actually touch down but was close...this is a couple streets over from my house

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[Not4you]

jeebus man, head to the basement!

[Armen]

That looks like a funnel cloud to me man, lol.

[ZR]

Hell yes it does.

[StAnger]

Looks like a funnel, and I know for a fact that the storm was rotating.

[stangstevers]

+1... looks very funnely to me.

Got caught in some crazy amount of rain on the 401 earlier, couldn't see anything. Funny how people will slow down for "safety" AND NOT TURN ON FUCKING LIGHTS.

[RedSN]

GR expects perfection.

[Ghost Rider]

GR expects perfection.


LOL...I guess I was expecting it to look a little more like this...

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[Armen]

GR expects perfection.


http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff276/armenk2000/Misc/tornado%202%20copy_zpscxwj3jwd.jpg

[RedSN]

^^you implying it was not a funnel cloud, it was just a vortex created by GR's wing?

[Not4you]

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff276/armenk2000/Misc/tornado%202%20copy_zpscxwj3jwd.jpg

debris?

[Stephen06GT]

debris?

https://www.ukflagcompany.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/yere.png

[Ghost Rider]

LOL...

[RedSN]

Phoenix getting hit with an H-bomb

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13892374_749243258511955_6815684062977406017_n.jpg ?oh=3df3b68c60f2018941934cf951b3a039&oe=5824B877

http://www.thisiscolossal.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/storm-1-1.jpg



https://player.vimeo.com/video/135811823

[StAnger]

Perfect example of a down burst.

[Old Fart]

Wow...

[ZR]

Talk about crazy weather.