2003 cobra replica rims from latemodelrestoration

[Harbinger]

So I just got these in and they really freaking stick out. Offset is 25mm.

Is this normal?

Rims are 17x9 03 cobras

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/24/d3bf17fce14ae827529e962f62c76b9d.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/24/0e718de854610e692c6df27251b82ab3.jpg


Any help or advice is appreciated!

[Ponyryd]

Offset sounds right for that car, are there maybe spacers behind the wheel you're forgetting about? Maybe they sent you the wrong offset? You can measure the backspacing yourself, take a straightedge and lay it across the back rim face, measure the distance to the hub flange, should be around 6".

[NickD]

Its the new stances out look, you need to stretch a 195 tire on that 9" rim and lower the car to scraping then you'll get all the respect at ertefa meets lol

[Harbinger]

Well I am royally fucked

[Harbinger]

Returning them will cost me a fucking fortune. I might as well sell them.

[Ponyryd]

Not sure about Latemodel but AM was very good when I had a bent wheel from them, I shipped it to them at their expense, they sent me a new one totally free of charge. Did you order the wrong wheels, or did they screw up?

[Ghost Rider]

put the tire on and drop the jack, your looking at an illusion right now wit the suspension at full drop

[Harbinger]

I ordered the wrong wheels. I shouldn't have ordered them. They don't pay for return shipping

[ZR]

How to Measure Wheel BackSpaceThe easiest way to measure backspace is to lay the wheel face down onto the ground so the backside of the wheel is facing up. Take a straight edge and lay it diagonally across the inboard flange of the wheel. Take a tape measure and measure the distance from where the straight edge contacts the inboard flange to the hub mounting pad of the wheel. This measurement is backspace. The photo below shows three wheels with 2",3", & 4" backspace.
Items required to measure wheel backspace:
http://www.4wheelparts.com/images/landing/tirewheelpackage/wheel_backspace.jpg

Tape measure

Straight edge

Wheel w/o tire (preferred)

[ZR]

Measure and post Backspacing and I can tell you whats up.
As Dave said, suspension hanging like that may be making it look worse.

[ZR]

https://www.customwheeloffset.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/+measuring_backspacing.jpg

[Harbinger]

Thanks rick that explains it very well. I am going to measure it tomorrow then head over to your place. According to the website specs the backspacing should be 5.95 inches



https://www.customwheeloffset.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/+measuring_backspacing.jpg

[Harbinger]

I just realized they are deep dish style rims...man I really didn't pay attention when I ordered this shit. That outer lip is what is further causing it to stick out....

[ZR]

Tell you what, bring one of your rims / can measure against an OEM Ford Cobra rim.
10-4.

[Ghost Rider]

I just realized they are deep dish style rims...man I really didn't pay attention when I ordered this shit. That outer lip is what is further causing it to stick out....

the dish has nothing to do with it...you could have a huge dish with the proper backspacing that will still fit...


for example:

9" dished wheel for the front

10.5" dished wheel for the rear

[ZR]

+1 on the above.

[Mustang4]

24-25mm offset is stock for those Cobra wheels. Had them on my Fox and they didn't stick out. Factory ones were like 28mm.

[Harbinger]

Will do rick....thanks everyone else. I'm still learning I guess... and I greatly appreciate all the input and information :) . I'll swing by tmrw Rick. Gnight all

[OldSchool]

That looks like a 10.5 inch wide rim too me. How does it look on the back?

[Ghost Rider]

^^^nah, the 10.5" should have a much bigger lip than that...I could be wrong but I don't think you can get the smaller lip in a 10.5"

[OldSchool]

I am getting ready to order a set for our vert ...I'm interested in what happened to that "look". For the record though my factory 2000cobra Rs do stick out a bit on my sn95

[ZR]

Cobra R wheels are 9.5" which puts em just that much closer to the outter fender edges.

[OldSchool]

That's why I'm thinking those might be 10.5s.
The Rs are 20mm offset and like you mentioned 9.5 wide and I trip over my tire walking by they stick out so much lol.

[Screw]

GR's stick out to his wing span :encouragement:

[ZR]

Went to their web site, it's a 9" but with a funky offest.

http://578e7a9bafc08e847f59-b21544d490ba797ec9de9d17e947de3d.r81.cf1.rackcdn.c om/lrs-10267953d_3163.jpg

[Ghost Rider]

That's why I'm thinking those might be 10.5s.
The Rs are 20mm offset and like you mentioned 9.5 wide and I trip over my tire walking by they stick out so much lol.

part of the problem is "SN95" they were never meant to go on that car, they were built for the new edge car, I have the same ones...actually have two sets of 9.5" rims for all 4's now but the new edge as more of a flare to the front fender...

[Ghost Rider]

GR's stick out to his wing span :encouragement:

lol, well I don't know about that...

the loud sticks out pretty far though

[OldSchool]

part of the problem is "SN95" they were never meant to go on that car, they were built for the new edge car, I have the same ones...actually have two sets of 9.5" rims for all 4's now but the new edge as more of a flare to the front fender...

Oh so you are the one that bought that set recently....................

[Ghost Rider]

Oh so you are the one that bought that set recently....................


maybe...who's asking, you a cop??

[Ghost Rider]

2965

[OldSchool]

Talk about thread jack. Sorry bud. Lol

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb376/HanesRC/White%2095%20Cobra/3CFFA9A5-BF2D-439D-9E5E-DC2DAF18AA6C_zpsfxvyhitr.jpg

[Ghost Rider]

it's okay, we already told what to do and what to look for...it's free game now!! LOL


:D

[Intmdtr]

I would be interested to know how that looks on the rear of the car. You sure those are for a 99-04 mustang?

[Harbinger]

I would be interested to know how that looks on the rear of the car. You sure those are for a 99-04 mustang?
Called them up and they said it's for those years. Website info says it's for them as well. I'm swinging by ricks in the afternoon so we will sort this whole thing out

[Intmdtr]

Are they 17" Chrome?

[ZR]

Machined version


http://578e7a9bafc08e847f59-b21544d490ba797ec9de9d17e947de3d.r81.cf1.rackcdn.c om/lrs-10267953d_3163.jpg

[Ponyryd]

Called them up and they said it's for those years. Website info says it's for them as well. I'm swinging by ricks in the afternoon so we will sort this whole thing out

If it's their info that's wrong I'm sure they'll do something to make it right, usually big online companies have good customer service, hopefully you get some kind of restitution. I'd be down to buy a pair for the rear of my '97, then maybe find some stockers for the front...

[TurboFox]

Im so confused. What other year would they be for that needs less offset. All the newer stuff has more offset.

Just put tires on the car and drop it on the ground

[Harbinger]

Probably looks odd because a tire wasn't on it. I'm dropping by ricks today to compare it with a stock cobra rim. I'll also mount a tire to check it out. Problem is all 4 rims are deep dish style. They never put it on the title just the mini info for the rim on latemodelrestoration.com which kinda mislead me

[Ponyryd]

Is this the set you bought? http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/WK-10267953D/03-Cobra-Wheel-Kit-Machined-17x9-94-04
If so, I see no reason they should not fit unless they were made wrong or boxed wrong. This sounds to me like its 100% their problem, the set says it will work on your car and it doesn't, plain and simple, don't blame yourself.
I really doubt mounting a tire and dropping the car will change the way it fits much, I mean it will drop in a little but it's not just out at the top due to increased camber from having the suspension hanging......
Also, make sure you check all 4 wheels, in case they aren't all the same.

[Harbinger]

Is this the set you bought? http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/WK-10267953D/03-Cobra-Wheel-Kit-Machined-17x9-94-04
If so, I see no reason they should not fit unless they were made wrong or boxed wrong. This sounds to me like its 100% their problem, the set says it will work on your car and it doesn't, plain and simple, don't blame yourself.
I really doubt mounting a tire and dropping the car will change the way it fits much, I mean it will drop in a little but it's not just out at the top due to increased camber from having the suspension hanging......
Also, make sure you check all 4 wheels, in case they aren't all the same.
That's the set

[JDS]

I had the exact set on my fox,no issues.

[Harbinger]

This is the problem. I can't believe late model sells them like this. This is the back part of the hub.... It's not completely even. Notice the ends


http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/25/a6d9aa93821a2e66d3bed17bd54c5a57.jpg

[RedSN]

Never seen ones like that. I don't think that fraction of an inch is causing your problem, but I find it intersting that that doesn't allow much contact area between the hub and the rim. According to MM, the wheel is held on to the car by the friction and clamping force of the wheel studs and the hub.

[Snaketamer]

Yeah...they look like the machine process wasn't completed...Kinda wonky...

[ZR]

If machined flat, would be virtually identical to the stock 03/04 Cobra rim offset.
Ridiculous how they left it finished like dat.

[Harbinger]

Im gonna contact latemodelrestoration.com and see if I can get a complete refund plus them pay for me shipping it back. They should not be allowed to sell stuff that could be a safety issue.

[JDS]

That's crazy, hope they make it right.

[OldSchool]

Please keep us posted on how this unfolds. I want the exact same rims for the wife ride (except chrome).
This isn't latemodels fault but the should come good for it. Poor manufacting QC ... Skipped a step.

[Ponyryd]

I highly doubt that's the problem, but possible I suppose. It looks to me like it should have been machined well beyond that little lip, like down to the next level so there's a full ring of contact all around. If they don't do anything I'd say you're perfectly safe grinding that little lip off yourself if you're sure it's the problem.

[Ghost Rider]

^^^there is no problem, the backspacing between those and OEM are only a matter of a couple mm, we measured them today...

he's just unsure if he want's to use them

[Harbinger]

^^^there is no problem, the backspacing between those and OEM are only a matter of a couple mm, we measured them today...

he's just unsure if he want's to use them
Also unsure of they will torque right from the start.

[ZR]

Only one way to know.
Like I said, head to PA or CTC and get yourself set up with a torque wrench, extension and socket. Every car nut should have their own to periodically check wheels anyways.

[Scrape]

Well I just read the entire thread. All I can say is that should be flat but it is still not enough to make it stick out that far. That looks roughly about 3-5mm? But your wheel is sticking out 1 inch plus. :shrug:

[Ponyryd]

^^^there is no problem, the backspacing between those and OEM are only a matter of a couple mm, we measured them today...

he's just unsure if he want's to use them

Are they wider then? Those really seem to stick out.....if he bolts in a stock cobra 9" wheel it sticks out like that?

[Harbinger]

Only one way to know.
Like I said, head to PA or CTC and get yourself set up with a torque wrench, extension and socket. Every car nut should have their own to periodically check wheels anyways.
Well do sir. I'm still learning how to be a car nut [emoji41]

[Harbinger]

Are they wider then? Those really seem to stick out.....if he bolts in a stock cobra 9" wheel it sticks out like that?
I believe I have a negative camber in the front do you think that may be the cause of making it sick out that much?

Just to clarify: I didn't pay attention and realized all the rims were deep dish (this was my fault.). Further more, they seemed to have stuck out too much but it could have been because the tire was not mounted or the camber. Last, the back of the hub needs to be machined evenly, that is the biggest reason why I want a full refund.

Other wise the rims look wicked.

I'll keep everyone posted on my interaction with latemodelrestoration.

[Ponyryd]

If it was just due to the camber it would be sticking out at the top only, this sticks out everywhere. Would be pretty easy to do a test fit with a jack under the lower control arm....that would put the wheel about where it would be with a tire on and sitting on the ground. It is tough to tell with the suspension hanging and no tire, and maybe my eyes are fooling me, but it looks very wrong.
Deep dish or not the should not stick out like that, you can run deep dish on all 4 corners and have the wheels fit perfect. Actually I'm quite sure Rick had DD all around on his cobra before.

[SteveEH]

From the looks of it, when you put the tire on, and get it mounted and everything, the rim/tire wouldn't stick out that much, I think that those "few mm" could be the cause, even if they are minimal, they can change the whole rim/tire look. Hopefully you get a refund and shipping charges paid for. I know I was told to go through DaSilvas for anything from LateModelRestoration, I was told they will make it right, even if it's a few more dollars.

[Harbinger]

I'll give latemodel a call, if they give me issues I'll call up dasilva and see if they can help me out. I'll keep everyone posted as usual.



From the looks of it, when you put the tire on, and get it mounted and everything, the rim/tire wouldn't stick out that much, I think that those "few mm" could be the cause, even if they are minimal, they can change the whole rim/tire look. Hopefully you get a refund and shipping charges paid for. I know I was told to go through DaSilvas for anything from LateModelRestoration, I was told they will make it right, even if it's a few more dollars.

[ZR]

If your still in doubt, jack the car up under the lower control arm and try the rim on. Measurements say it'll fit just fine, even better if you have that c hair machined off the mounting face.

[Harbinger]

Im gona aim for a refund. rick if that goes sour I'll do what you suggested.

[JDS]

Just fyi,i lifted my '00 GT today and noticed my cobra rims stuck out like yours did in the first picture........

[Harbinger]

Update: called latemodelrestoration and the representative told me to take photos of all the rims. If it's a defect I get full reimbursement (including shipping). I hope they realize that the back part of the hub should be completely machined and flush.

I'll continue to keep you all posted.

[Ghost Rider]

^^^it's not a defect for sure...it's just how they make them...they are going to go check their other rims and see they are the same and come back at you with "there's nothing wrong" it's not like the rim moved out of place or something while it was being machined, those grooves were cut and slanted smooth


however, if you get someone there that doesn't know what they are looking at, then you might get lucky!! LOL :D

[Monera3v]

Sell them to some kid looking for stance if anything cuz you know there a nissan guy out there looking for 114.3 x 9 for his 195 tires

[RedSN]

...those grooves were cut and slanted smooth.

you mean like the shape one of these cutting tools might make?

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSKAg1FX64JJjkl9EoYK18S-1Ocp2gaA6793HQKMiPOKEVZxSWO

Looks to me like the CNC lathe just didn't complete the job.

But I agree: they will likely look at another defective set of rims in stock and determine that is "normal"

[Ghost Rider]

you mean like the shape one of these cutting tools might make?

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSKAg1FX64JJjkl9EoYK18S-1Ocp2gaA6793HQKMiPOKEVZxSWO

Looks to me like the CNC lathe just didn't complete the job.

But I agree: they will likely look at another defective set of rims in stock and determine that is "normal"

I have no idea what that is Don, looks like a bunch of Penis's to me...and not even good looking ones :shrug:


I'm just saying, I think every rim is going to be the same, it's not like the rim fucked up one rim cause it went in lunch early on a Friday, this is how they were build on purpose

[svo1990mustang]

looks like a bunch of Penis's to me...and not even good looking ones :shrug:

Almost afraid to ask, what is you definition of a good looking penis?

[Ghost Rider]

Almost afraid to ask, what is you definition of a good looking penis?

I'll show you, next time you come out to WNNOTC!!

:D

[HyperGT]

Well i guess the next WNNOTC is going to be........empty. :)

[Ghost Rider]

^^^no you and I both know that Zexhuffer will be showing up LOL

[svo1990mustang]

Note to self......never go to WNNOTC!

[Intmdtr]

i'd show up just to see if there is a better looking one than mine.....

[Not4you]

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/5b/5b7e0fdd39178dc8d4148618607fc96fb8908a1ea62c041196 30f50f349c4ce1.jpg

[OldSchool]

Send a Link of this thread to LateModel, might help you get a refund.

[Harbinger]

Send a Link of this thread to LateModel, might help you get a refund.
I might do that l. I did mention a few of the Toronto club members thought the raised portion of the back hub was odd. Sent them an email with pictures of what I was talking about including the one of my wheel sticking out. Hopefully I can get a refund. I still think the entire back part of the wheel Hub should be evenly machined. It poses a structural strain on the wheel itself.

[RedSN]

these appear to have the same ridge...

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l297/luisa0983/IMAG0320.jpg

[Harbinger]

these appear to have the same ridge...

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l297/luisa0983/IMAG0320.jpg
Is that your set?

[Harbinger]

UPDATE: Got a reply from the rep that is helping me out. He sounded pretty surprised and let me know that he is taking it to the wheel rep/manager asap and I will be contacted again no later than tmrw. Things seem to be looking good. Said that they are def gonna help me out so I'm hopeful!

Stay tuned!

[Ponyryd]

Honestly it looks pretty normal to me, they machines them like that for a reason I'm sure. I've seen lots of rims with similar machining...

[Harbinger]

Then maybe those rims that you've seen were not machined properly from the beginning.


Honestly it looks pretty normal to me, they machines them like that for a reason I'm sure. I've seen lots of rims with similar machining...

[Ponyryd]

Well, I see 5-10 sets of wheels a day at work, they very, very rarely make contact all the way around, especially steel wheels, if you look at the imprint on a rotor or drum after you take the wheel off you'll see what I mean. They are designed like that, and for a reason I'm sure, I don't have a factory Ford wheel to look at right now but I bet they aren't machined totally around, there is always a void or two here and there.
Don't get me wrong,mom not saying it's right, just saying it's somewhat normal.

[Harbinger]

Well, I see 5-10 sets of wheels a day at work, they very, very rarely make contact all the way around, especially steel wheels, if you look at the imprint on a rotor or drum after you take the wheel off you'll see what I mean. They are designed like that, and for a reason I'm sure, I don't have a factory Ford wheel to look at right now but I bet they aren't machined totally around, there is always a void or two here and there.
Don't get me wrong,mom not saying it's right, just saying it's somewhat normal.
Hmm you could be right but the oem cobra wheel rick showed me was machined flat.

[RedSN]

No, not my rim, was just trying to find other rims like your to see if it was 'normal', and not a defect.

I'm guessing it's a feature to help prevent the rim front 'welding' itself to the hub?

[Harbinger]

No, not my rim, was just trying to find other rims like your to see if it was 'normal', and not a defect.

I'm guessing it's a feature to help prevent the rim front 'welding' itself to the hub?
And your rim is oem like ricks?

[Ponyryd]

Hmm you could be right but the oem cobra wheel rick showed me was machined flat.

Just checked my Honda wheels and they're flat, checked my Mitsubishi wheels as well, flat also.

[ZR]

I've got seven sets of wheels and tires here, all rim mounting faces are dead nuts flat. Yes some have reliefs / recesses but none have a raised edge like yours.

[Ghost Rider]

Cause I'm such a nice guy...I just went and took pics of three sets of wheels



Ford Racing OEM Cobra "R"

2982


Steeda Ultralite Race Wheel

2983


OEM Ford Mach 1

2984

[ZR]

Buddy, don't you ever clean your wheels?

[Ghost Rider]

I think you already know the answer to that!!

[Ghost Rider]

anyways...point being that...not only do I not clean the back of my rims...but that they are all the same on the wheels I have...

[ZR]

So it was a dual point post, nice. :sarcasm:

[Ghost Rider]

So it was a dual point post, nice. :sarcasm:



that's right...one of those "Quality" posts I was reffering to in the other thread a few ago...

[ZR]

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/53336594.jpg

[b1lk1]

I am getting ready to order a set for our vert ...I'm interested in what happened to that "look". For the record though my factory 2000cobra Rs do stick out a bit on my sn95


Cobra R wheels are 9.5" which puts em just that much closer to the outter fender edges.

I have Cobra R's for my car now, with 235's up front and 255's out back they fit inside the wheel wells. By a finger up front, little more out back.

[Ghost Rider]

I have Cobra R's for my car now, with 235's up front and 255's out back they fit inside the wheel wells. By a finger up front, little more out back.


http://www.quickmeme.com/img/1b/1bae09fb2ecdd32e63311526238fb66456ffd699a857396004 d37ccf0098303a.jpg



I really hope your joking though

[OldSchool]

I'm running 265/40r18 all around just like the cobra. I had 35 series ..... Hated the ride

[b1lk1]

I'm quite serious, 235/45 r17 up front, 255/40 r17 out back. Even with my car slammed as it is no rub other than the wheel on full lock (installing rack limiters).

[RedSN]

I'm quite serious, 235/45 r17 up front, 255/40 r17 out back.
Just make GR happy and tell him it's a 17x8 rim.

[b1lk1]

LOL! I'd like to, but when (if) he sees the front tires, he'll notice immediately it's a 9.5 as the rim is wider than the tire ever so slightly.

[Harbinger]

UPDATE: Customer service helped me out greatly. I got a full refund :). Case closed.

[Ghost Rider]

LOL! I'd like to, but when (if) he sees the front tires, he'll notice immediately it's a 9.5 as the rim is wider than the tire ever so slightly.

this is my point exactly...that is way too small of a tire for that rim...of course this is just my opinion but...

I run 275's on my 9.5" wheels, granted they are slicks so they are actually wider than a regular 275 street tire...so for a street tire I would have no problem going with a 285 on there...

[RedSN]

Case closed.
Good!

...now we can continue with the off-topic discussion of b1lk1's tires are WAY too narrow for a 9.5 rim

My money is still on they are in fact 8" rims.

[Not4you]

I guess depends if they are OEM or replicas.

[b1lk1]

Did they ever make 4 lug Cobra R factory rims?

I also didn't get to choose the tire sizes, they were already there when I bought the rims.

[Ghost Rider]

Did they ever make 4 lug Cobra R factory rims?

I also didn't get to choose the tire sizes, they were already there when I bought the rims.

nope and the replicas are only 8" not 9.5"

[Harbinger]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/28/61addfb56f7993cd88a475bb454e229b.jpg

[b1lk1]

They state that they are 9" OEM rims. That is cast into it on the backside of the spokes.

I, of course, realize they were never a factory item.

[Ghost Rider]

which cobra r's are you talking about then

there was '93, '95, & 2000

are you sure you don't have a 5 bolt?

firs you said they were 9.5" now you are saying they are 9's?

the OEM 2000 Cobra R wheel was the only one that came in a 9.5"

[Ghost Rider]

They state that they are 9" OEM rims. That is cast into it on the backside of the spokes.

I, of course, realize they were never a factory item.

k, now your confusing me...OEM means it came from the factory on the car...

so either it is or it isn't...

[b1lk1]

I have no idea. I cannot imagine they ever made a factory 17" Cobra R wheel in 4 lug. I attached a couple pics, maybe that will help. As for the previous 9.5", I did not say that, I was just stating what size tire I had on what rim. There is very much I do not know about when it comes to these cars and aftermarket.

[svo1990mustang]

I'm guessing you don't have an OEM wheel, but a wheel made by OE wheels

http://www.oewheelsllc.com/Wheels_3/Single-Wheels-for-Ford-Mustang#.VUAC65MYGSo

[b1lk1]

Good God, I just got new glasses too. Man, getting old is just a suck deal, lol.

[Ghost Rider]

I have no idea. I cannot imagine they ever made a factory 17" Cobra R wheel in 4 lug. I attached a couple pics, maybe that will help. As for the previous 9.5", I did not say that, I was just stating what size tire I had on what rim. There is very much I do not know about when it comes to these cars and aftermarket.



LOL! I'd like to, but when (if) he sees the front tires, he'll notice immediately it's a 9.5 as the rim is wider than the tire ever so slightly.


you said 9.5, only reason I brought it up...


as far as the wheel is conserned...it doesn't have the Ford logo stamped in that I can see, I'm thinking it's another make, possible OE Wheel replicas?

[Ghost Rider]

oh nevermind...I was tree'd by svo1990...damn you Daryl!! LOL

[svo1990mustang]

oh nevermind...I was tree'd by svo1990...damn you Darryl!! LOL

And you call me slow :boxer:

[Ghost Rider]

And you call me slow :boxer:

nah, I don't call you slow...I just think make fun of you for trying to pick up dates at the airport on a Tuesday night to get out of going to WNNOTC!!


LOL

I hope you remember what I'm talking about otherwise that sentence is going to sound really wierd LOL

[svo1990mustang]

Unfortunately I do remember what you are talking about; but regardless you are still weird.

[Ghost Rider]

lol, fair enough

[OldSchool]

Why don't you 2 get a room,..... You can show him your offset there

[Harbinger]

Man you guys raped the thread sideways haha!

[b1lk1]

I do have pictures of MY offset......

[jibbijib]

I figured out the issue between b1lk1 and GR.

b1lk1 only stated he had Cobra R replica wheels. GR assumed they were 9.5 in based on the original Cobra R wheels.

Most Cobra R replica wheels come in 8 and 9 inch wide applications for 4 lug. 235s can fit on a 9 inch just fine. It's a tiny bit stretched but not VW brooooo stretched.

That being said mine are 9 inch all the way around and 255s are perfect fit.

[OldSchool]

This thread was done.... You had to go and beat that horse,....

[Ghost Rider]

I figured out the issue between b1lk1 and GR.

b1lk1 only stated he had Cobra R replica wheels. GR assumed they were 9.5 in based on the original Cobra R wheels.

Most Cobra R replica wheels come in 8 and 9 inch wide applications for 4 lug. 235s can fit on a 9 inch just fine. It's a tiny bit stretched but not VW brooooo stretched.

That being said mine are 9 inch all the way around and 255s are perfect fit.

nope, read post #115


not that it really matters but...plus he said they were OEM at the start before we figured they were reps


anyways, doesn't matter...I still say it needs wider LOL even if was only an 8...

now that being said...you need bigger tires too...lol

275 is about perfect for most street tires on a 9" rim, that's what the cobra came with from the factory and you know Ford isn't going to put anything big on...heaven for bid!!

[RedSN]

Agree with GR.
I have 245's on the front, too narrow, and 275's on the rear, just right.

[Ponyryd]

I prefer slightly stretched, I like a 245 on a 9" wheel and a 275 on a 10-10.5"

[b1lk1]

Well, I'm pretty happy to even have 235's as the tires I removed were 15" and 215/65 series. I wish they were 245's, not sure I'd get anything bigger than that inside my fenders.

[Harbinger]

Forgot to mention latemodelrestoration told me to keep the rims as well as the full refund

[Ponyryd]

^^^whaaaaaaa? Good for you, that makes things easier, lol.

[Harbinger]

^^^whaaaaaaa? Good for you, that makes things easier, lol.
Haha I know! It does. It would cost them way too much in shipping so they said the rims are on them.

[RedSN]

You going to take the money and get them machined?

[Stephen06GT]

You going to take the money and get them machined?

This.

[KIDAGIN]

^^^This also

[Harbinger]

I kinda like them gonna see how they will work with my mustang. PayPal refund already made. Really have respect for them for taking care of my situation. I was really surprised

[HyperGT]

damn a first for advantage Canadian when buying in the US with shipping costs! Thats awesome.


Forgot to mention latemodelrestoration told me to keep the rims as well as the full refund

[Harbinger]

The rare moment in which being Canadian is a plus in the mustang world. So sick of outrageous rip off prices for parts and inflated shipping prices between borders.

[Scrape]

Wow that is great. Let's go buy more wrong parts for each other's car lol.
The rare moment in which being Canadian is a plus in the mustang world. So sick of outrageous rip off prices for parts and inflated shipping prices between borders.

[Harbinger]

Lol why not right ? Nah I'd feel so bad doing that to latemodel. They were more than helpful.

I'm taking the rims to tiremag off of keele. Gonna have them machine that crap off and then slap those babies on my STANG after Rick makes her good as new (new clutch, clutch cable, and oil pan). Steve from tiremag looked at the rim and said "why did they do that ?" pointing out the raised portions of the hub surface.

It was interesting to see some of you saying it should be fine but others taking note that it looks to be off. I think the majority vote is that the rims were a bad batch, poorly made etc. Latemodel even removed those rims from their website. I really hope they didn't have alot of those rims laying around as it would suck BALLS to have to return it all to the original manufacturer.


Wow that is great. Let's go buy more wrong parts for each other's car lol.

[Ghost Rider]

good deal...however what will make this tragic is if you still in fact plan to put 245's on that rim...


just saying... :)

[Scrape]

I know. Just kidding. I agree with Tire Mag for that work. They are great that way.
Lol why not right ? Nah I'd feel so bad doing that to latemodel. They were more than helpful.

I'm taking the rims to tiremag off of keele. Gonna have them machine that crap off and then slap those babies on my STANG after Rick makes her good as new (new clutch, clutch cable, and oil pan). Steve from tiremag looked at the rim and said "why did they do that ?" pointing out the raised portions of the hub surface.

It was interesting to see some of you saying it should be fine but others taking note that it looks to be off. I think the majority vote is that the rims were a bad batch, poorly made etc. Latemodel even removed those rims from their website. I really hope they didn't have alot of those rims laying around as it would suck BALLS to have to return it all to the original manufacturer.

[Ponyryd]

Okay, here's what I'd do if it was me. Machine two wheels, then mount tires and see how they fit, if they still stick out put them on the rear and get some stock satin Cobras for the front, sell the other two.

[Harbinger]

I don't care if they stick out a bit. Might as well machine them all. I can't sell these rims like this to someone else if even tiremag thinks the back side is wrong

[Intmdtr]

Machine 2 for the front, leave 2 for the rear....buY appropriate fitting tires with the leftover money...BOOM!!!

[Harbinger]

100 bucks to machine all 4 is a steal. Just sayin

[Intmdtr]

Did you check the fit on the back? It may offset the wheel enough to fit the wheel well

[Harbinger]

It'll fit rick checked the back spacing. It'll be oem back spacing when machined. Gonna get a nice set of falken performance tires

[Ghost Rider]

*cough* 275's *cough*

[HyperGT]

*cough* 275's *cough*

275 fallkens rock!
3016

[Not4you]

It'll fit rick checked the back spacing. It'll be oem back spacing when machined. Gonna get a nice set of falken performance tires

I think what Intmdtr is saying is that the OEM backspacing has wheels sit too deep in the wheel well. A lot of guys will run spacers or will go with wider ones (I run 10.5" out back). If you do not machine the ones for the rear, they may look better.

[Harbinger]

275 fallkens rock!
3016
They also may not be secure enough.... which brings us back to the improperly machined back. They are also deep dish style so it may actually be okay. We will see.

I think what Intmdtr is saying is that the OEM backspacing has wheels sit too deep in the wheel well. A lot of guys will run spacers or will go with wider ones (I run 10.5" out back). If you do not machine the ones for the rear, they may look better.

[N89]

There is nothing wrong with your rims, I have this exact same set of rims from late model except I had the centers painted Black. Mine also have the lip on the inside hub, I used them last year for two months and about one month this year, I check the torque often and they stay tight with no issues at all. I am running 315/35/17 and they sit flush with the rear fenders. I will try to get a picture from the top too show how the rims sits to the fender.
http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a636/n01n01/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-04/351B3EFF-AC7A-409C-9642-8521B9A61D1A_zpsdnch9frj.jpg
http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a636/n01n01/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-04/EC988A55-FE3A-4D66-AA0E-9985423FF62E_zpsgmrnybd7.jpg

[N89]

Or maybe my rims are also defective.... I think I am going to give them a call, how knows maybe I get my money back.

[Harbinger]

They actually checked it out with their department. It's not like they gave me a refund to shut me up. They were legitimately concerned

[Ghost Rider]

There is nothing wrong with your rims, I have this exact same set of rims from late model except I had the centers painted Black. Mine also have the lip on the inside hub, I used them last year for two months and about one month this year, I check the torque often and they stay tight with no issues at all. I am running 315/35/17 and they sit flush with the rear fenders. I will try to get a picture from the top too show how the rims sits to the fender.
http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a636/n01n01/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-04/351B3EFF-AC7A-409C-9642-8521B9A61D1A_zpsdnch9frj.jpg
http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a636/n01n01/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-04/EC988A55-FE3A-4D66-AA0E-9985423FF62E_zpsgmrnybd7.jpg



those aren't the same rims on the rear, those are the 10.5" version...

nice stance on the car though, looks good

[N89]

They actually checked it out with their department. It's not like they gave me a refund to shut me up. They were legitimately concerned

I noticed that un-machined lip on my rims but thought it was normal... I just got off the phone with them, they want to see pics of my rims

[N89]

those aren't the same rims on the rear, those are the 10.5" version...

nice stance on the car though, looks good

yep 10.5 rears but both rears and fronts have the unfinished hub.

[Harbinger]

They should check all their rims at this point. Looks like replica wheel fudged up on the manufacturing process...

[Ghost Rider]

yep 10.5 rears but both rears and fronts have the unfinished hub.


yeah...I just meant his won't line up quite as well with the rear fender like yours as his are only 9"s

however...a small pro spacer would fix that up in no time...

[N89]

They should check all their rims at this point. Looks like replica wheel fudged up on the manufacturing process...
I never had any problems but now I am a little worried, I will wait to see what they say.
Just get your hubs machined and enjoy the free wheels.

[N89]

yeah...I just meant his won't line up quite as well with the rear fender like yours as his are only 9"s

however...a small pro spacer would fix that up in no time...

Yep 1" spacer will fix that.
I saw you on Tuesday around 8pm on Woodbine in the Black Mach, I was at the Tim Horton's by Canadian tire. Car looks great.

[Harbinger]

I never had any problems but now I am a little worried, I will wait to see what they say.
Just get your hubs machined and enjoy the free wheels.
Thanks at least you haven't had any problems. Can't wait to be on the road again

[Ghost Rider]

Yep 1" spacer will fix that.
I saw you on Tuesday around 8pm on Woodbine in the Black Mach, I was at the Tim Horton's by Canadian tire. Car looks great.

thanks!!

was on my way to Wing Night :)

[Harbinger]

Wheels machined! Wicked job by tiremag. Hopefully the tires will be in by Monday.


http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/02/4360424e7c58c00051122db6fb89748f.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/02/f317bf2dac605f54f5a6d5346eb4ebfc.jpg

[RedSN]

That looks better!

[ZR]

Work looks great.

[Harbinger]

Work looks great.

Tires coming in on Monday hopefully.


https://youtu.be/OKp8mYzsQzo

[N89]

Wheels machined! Wicked job by tiremag. Hopefully the tires will be in by Monday.


http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/02/4360424e7c58c00051122db6fb89748f.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/02/f317bf2dac605f54f5a6d5346eb4ebfc.jpg
How much did you pay to get this done? I may have to get my rims done also.

[Harbinger]

I payed around 100

[Harbinger]

Did latemodelrestoration take care of you?

[HyperGT]

What tires did you end up ordering?

[Harbinger]

Im going with falken sk453 or 920s

[Ghost Rider]

^^^thought you said they'd be on in Monday...how do you not know what ones your getting? lol

[Harbinger]

Still deciding lol

[N89]

What tires did you end up ordering?

They want pics. I was too lazy to take off the wheels and take pics this weekend.

[Harbinger]

Send those pics bud. Tires mounted and ready to go! Now I'm just waiting for rick to put the finishing touches on my poor baby.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/04/397e80e04a9418bcf115948ab4f0fd04.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/04/8cf50a10b012e68c2e9988ef325d87d0.jpg

Ps: I didn't put 275s all around Ghost [emoji14] , just the rears

[Ghost Rider]

hate to ask what you got for the front then...

and what your reasoning was?

[Harbinger]

245 front. Preference.

[Ghost Rider]

ic...cool

[Harbinger]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/04/8d2ed188e977c2b913e624808a3e1f7b.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/04/1a3eb50f8f250ef5dce8bed017ac81cc.jpg

[Harbinger]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/04/f3800be8d0ed2ca30bdd3cd88431de4e.jpg

[Ponyryd]

Looks great, perfect fit now, good call.

[RedSN]

Looks great! :thumbsup:

[Harbinger]

Thanks everyone. I regret not listening to you Ghost. I didn't understand the necessity of 275s in the front until Rick explained it to me.

[HyperGT]

ITs only a set of tires, you can upgrade down the road and get better handling especially in these nose heavy cars.
Now lower that beast!
Looks good.

[Harbinger]

ITs only a set of tires, you can upgrade down the road and get better handling especially in these nose heavy cars.
Now lower that beast!
Looks good.
Lol thanks! As usual rick does fantastic work.

[Screw]

Good score , a little homework and persistance got u a set of nice "free" wheels , looks great !

[Not4you]

wheels look awesome.

now time for the rear wing mod ...

[Harbinger]

wheels look awesome.

now time for the rear wing mod ...
Thanks. Funny you would say that as I am not a huge fan of the spoiler style on my mustang. As much as I would love to continue modding the car, after spending some $$ on the clutch and oil pan and misc stuff, I am focusing on safety and suspension.

[Not4you]

It's free. Just move your existing wing back an inch so that the base aligns with the edge of the trunk lid. Make a massive difference in appearance, with no cost.

http://www.xantheon.com/mustang/images/100-0027_IMG.JPG

[Harbinger]

It's free. Just move your existing wing back an inch so that the base aligns with the edge of the trunk lid. Make a massive difference in appearance, with no cost.

http://www.xantheon.com/mustang/images/100-0027_IMG.JPG
Holy crap I never thought of that it looks wicked! Is there anything else I need to do like redrill any holes for this?

[Stephen06GT]

^^ Here's a link showing how to do it:

http://www.mustangworld.com/ourpics/fcar/wingmod1.htm

[Harbinger]

^^ Here's a link showing how to do it:

http://www.mustangworld.com/ourpics/fcar/wingmod1.htm
Thanks!

[Slick_89_Hatch]

Thanks!

I've done it on a couple cars....looks great and easy to do. Just take your time to lay out the new holes.

[Scrape]

The car looks great and minimal cost to machine things down makes it even better.

[Harbinger]

Indeed. I think I'll leave the spoiler the way it is for now.

[OldSchool]

Ok, I got too see a buddy of mine's from American Muscle. They DO NOT look like yours at all, they are very stock like.
I will post pictures later.
So good call on that

[b1lk1]

I'd remove it completely, I think they are garish and I only barely like the Cobra style wing at best. I'd rather see 4 rubber plugs where the holes are than a wing, but I realize I am a very small part of the population that feels this way.

[Harbinger]

I'd remove it completely, I think they are garish and I only barely like the Cobra style wing at best. I'd rather see 4 rubber plugs where the holes are than a wing, but I realize I am a very small part of the population that feels this way.
You got me too. I'd rather have plugs and be wingless. You can always put it back on without having to mutilate the lid

[Not4you]

maybe stainless carriage bolts would look ok to fill the holes?

[svo1990mustang]

I have seen people use push pins (Christmas tree clips) and elevator bolts to fill the holes. Also seen electrical tape and aluminum foil tape cut to circles and put over the holes as well.

[Harbinger]

Ok, I got too see a buddy of mine's from American Muscle. They DO NOT look like yours at all, they are very stock like.
I will post pictures later.
So good call on that

Send some pics over if you can please. Interesting to see.

[Slick_89_Hatch]

I have seen people use push pins (Christmas tree clips) and elevator bolts to fill the holes. Also seen electrical tape and aluminum foil tape cut to circles and put over the holes as well.

Might be hard to find but you could attempt to find a spoilerless trunk lid? Not sure how hard those are to find for the 99-04's.

[ZR]

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m117/zr5oh/Picture098.jpg (http://s102.photobucket.com/user/zr5oh/media/Picture098.jpg.html)


My former 2000 GT. Wing off and holes filled, top section of the third brake light painted body color.............looked killer!!!

[Blackmare]

That was a killer ride Rick. Loved it.

[ZR]

The one I should have never sold.

[Stephen06GT]

The one I should have never sold.

I wish I had bought it. It was just about perfect.

[Blackmare]

Amen to that Rick.

[KIDAGIN]

That was a killer ride Rick

[svo1990mustang]

Agree with many people above, loved that car.

[Not4you]

If I had a GT instead of a Mach, I think I would have a spoiler delete. I like the look, believe it or not. lol

[Harbinger]

The one I should have never sold.
You must have had flashbacks working on my car :) forgot you had a similar one to mine.

But now you have a bad ass cobra so it's a giant leap [emoji41]

[OldSchool]

Chrome cobras. 17x10.5. http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb376/HanesRC/Miscl/Car%20stuff/CC17F7A8-D645-4BDB-9E89-DC561EA646AA_zpsxxf0z6d1.jpg (http://s1202.photobucket.com/user/HanesRC/media/Miscl/Car%20stuff/CC17F7A8-D645-4BDB-9E89-DC561EA646AA_zpsxxf0z6d1.jpg.html)

[OldSchool]

from amercian muscle

[RedSN]

^^^the hub colouration looks like it used to have that same defect ridge.

[Harbinger]

Looks like both companies bought rims from the same Chinese company. Sigh.

[b1lk1]

ZR, that car is fantastic, my favorite Mustang is new edge with no spoiler. There was a V6 factory spoiler delete in Acton a few years back but the kid would not part with it. Only car I would consider besides a notch.

[ZR]

Mint to, really brings out the cars cool roof line.

[Harbinger]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/09/57dec1b76710358574b6a75f928dbddf.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/09/1b9d6d8775924399069bffe509e94308.jpg

[ZR]

Win of epic proportions.
If you get the holes filled, have the top the brake light sprayed n cleared.

[HyperGT]

yes wayyyy better for sure. Whar does your licence plate and screen name signify?

[Ghost Rider]

fix your god damn tail pipes!!

[Harbinger]

come and fix em for me !


fix your god damn tail pipes!!

[Harbinger]

yes wayyyy better for sure. Whar does your licence plate and screen name signify?

har·bin·ger
ˈhärbənjər/
noun
noun: harbinger; plural noun: harbingers

a person or thing that announces or signals the approach of another.
"witch hazels are the harbingers of spring"
synonyms: herald, sign, indication, signal, portent, omen, augury, forewarning, presage; More
forerunner, precursor, messenger;
literaryforetoken
"I long to see the robins, crocuses, and other harbingers of spring"
a forerunner of something.

[Harbinger]

Got the holes filled with plastic plugs from lowes (great customer service btw). The Homedepot around dufferin and steeles, had horrific costumer service...Nobody knew anything except for one asian employee, but even he had a bit of an attitude problem at first.


Win of epic proportions.
If you get the holes filled, have the top the brake light sprayed n cleared.

[Ghost Rider]

come and fix em for me !

15mm socket and 5min = done

[Harbinger]

15mm socket and 5min = done
What is wrong with my tail pipes anyways?

[Not4you]

I think that one sticks out further than the other?

[RedSN]

It really is OCD when it's somebody else car.

[Harbinger]

Ffs I never thought van noticed. I care not. She looks beautiful either way. I get compliments all the time

[Not4you]

GR is a bit of an exhaust snob. he bitched at me for a year about my tails not lining up exactly right. don't sweat it.

[Ghost Rider]

Ffs I never thought van noticed. I care not. She looks beautiful either way. I get compliments all the time


it's a dibsease really...I'm OCD over tips that don't line up...

if you come to wing night I'll fix it for you


on a side note...who is van? and why didn't he notice?

[Harbinger]

Its late it was a typo of a word I can't even remember lol hey if u can fix it be my guest :)

[Ghost Rider]

Its late it was a typo of a word I can't even remember lol hey if u can fix it be my guest :)

LOL, nice!!


Wheels look great though, glad it worked out for you...

[Harbinger]

LOL, nice!!


Wheels look great though, glad it worked out for you...
Thanks, same. Was a hell of a week when shit hit the fan with those rims + repairs etc etc.

[HyperGT]

thanks i know what the definition is, but was curious, if you want to share, what it signified to
you?


har·bin·ger
ˈhärbənjər/
noun
noun: harbinger; plural noun: harbingers

a person or thing that announces or signals the approach of another.
"witch hazels are the harbingers of spring"
synonyms: herald, sign, indication, signal, portent, omen, augury, forewarning, presage; More
forerunner, precursor, messenger;
literaryforetoken
"I long to see the robins, crocuses, and other harbingers of spring"
a forerunner of something.

[Harbinger]

thanks i know what the definition is, but was curious, if you want to share, what it signified to
you?
My bad. Something dark and ominous. And to me that's a muscle car making its way down the street. If that makes any sense.

[HyperGT]

yup very cool,

[RedSN]

Its late it was a typo of a word I can't even remember lol hey if u can fix it be my guest :)
If you can remember what the word is supposed to be, he can probably also fix that if you come to wing night.

[Harbinger]

Lol

[Not4you]

My bad. Something dark and ominous. And to me that's a muscle car making its way down the street. If that makes any sense.

reminds me of this pic of my old coupe, lurking in the shadows ...

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p184/Not-4-you/147.jpg (http://s128.photobucket.com/user/Not-4-you/media/147.jpg.html)

[RedSN]

Forgot about that pic. I'm going to steal it and say that's my coupe.
It looks black. ;)

[Not4you]

lol

It was actually taken by the guy that bought it from me. but I like it so I still post it sometimes.

[FABMAN]

personally, I always liked to the Cobra look on the back of those cars. However I was a little bias I guess...

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i220/fabman74/Mustang/DSC05193.jpg (http://s73.photobucket.com/user/fabman74/media/Mustang/DSC05193.jpg.html)

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i220/fabman74/Mustang/DSC05190.jpg (http://s73.photobucket.com/user/fabman74/media/Mustang/DSC05190.jpg.html)

[1low03gt]

This is the problem. I can't believe late model sells them like this. This is the back part of the hub.... It's not completely even. Notice the ends


http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/25/a6d9aa93821a2e66d3bed17bd54c5a57.jpg

My FR500's that I got from American Muscle are similar, but not as raised as yours. They are maybe close to 1/16 raised off of the face. Never ever had an issue. I see that you had the issue fixed, just wanted to add to what I found tonight when I took my wheels off to detail them.


http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m117/zr5oh/Picture098.jpg (http://s102.photobucket.com/user/zr5oh/media/Picture098.jpg.html)


My former 2000 GT. Wing off and holes filled, top section of the third brake light painted body color.............looked killer!!!

Yap, I remember this GT too. Very clean, and the transplant under the hood was sweet too!!



http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/09/57dec1b76710358574b6a75f928dbddf.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/09/1b9d6d8775924399069bffe509e94308.jpg

The spoilerless look is a nice clean look. When I got my GT back in '03, it was one of those mods I did that summer. Used some plugs to cover the holes, then over the winter had the decklid professionally filled, and repainted. Never looked back since.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k193/1low03gt/100_2715.jpg (http://s88.photobucket.com/user/1low03gt/media/100_2715.jpg.html)

[Ponyryd]

A guy at work just got some new wheels that have the same thing, not as pronounced, but there is a definite raised portion. I'm also fairly certain my saleen reps were the same, I'm sure it's just how they do them for some reason, and yours were just really bad.

[Harbinger]

It was so bad they took those rims off their website. A real shame

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