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Tailites
12-15-2014, 07:01 PM
anybody running it on their street vehicle?
TurboFox
12-15-2014, 07:17 PM
you know I will be the first to answer.
Its what keeps my car working.
Basically full on from 4psi. 50/50 mix usually but at the end of the year 60% meth
Tailites
12-15-2014, 07:24 PM
you know I will be the first to answer.
Its what keeps my car working.
Basically full on from 4psi. 50/50 mix usually but at the end of the year 60% meth
it was incorporated in with your tune?
TurboFox
12-15-2014, 07:31 PM
Not really. I have Holley HP EFI which self tunes...so maybe it is actually. My fuel trims get adjusted automatically to the target AFR. So if I spray more meth is adjusts accordingly. Soooo worth the money
Tailites
12-15-2014, 07:40 PM
Not really. I have Holley HP EFI which self tunes...so maybe it is actually. My fuel trims get adjusted automatically to the target AFR. So if I spray more meth is adjusts accordingly. Soooo worth the money
ya gotcha...basically then the tune adjusts for the increase in octane/cooler intake temp?
does your setup have a knock sensor?
TurboFox
12-15-2014, 07:47 PM
yup it uses factory knock sensors. Holley HP EFI look it up. Best money Ive spent on the car
Tailites
12-15-2014, 07:56 PM
yup it uses factory knock sensors. Holley HP EFI look it up. Best money Ive spent on the car
water meth can bring the octane rating up to the equivalent of race gas
what Im trying to do is get my heap running good on a stock A9L...I WILL do it btw
Im 90% there...just every so often I get bit in the azz by trace amounts of detonation
ran three seasons without issue on Shell 91...its a long story...really long
91 really dosent cut it...its great fuel...just not for what Im doing...so I will be
playing with water meth next summer
TurboFox
12-15-2014, 07:58 PM
I've ran as much as 21 psi through the 10:1 motor on a combination of 94 octane and meth all summer without issue
Tailites
12-15-2014, 08:04 PM
I've ran as much as 21 psi through the 10:1 motor on a combination of 94 octane and meth all summer without issue
if I ran 21 psi on my stock block...Id have two four cylinder motors pretty quick
& lots of oil everywhere
what kit did you install?
TurboFox
12-15-2014, 08:06 PM
Painless kit...which is discontinued but uses most of the same components as the devil's own kit which is quite good
onDjuice
12-15-2014, 08:12 PM
Just do it Glen it works..
Tailites
12-15-2014, 08:15 PM
Painless kit...which is discontinued but uses most of the same components as the devil's own kit which is quite good
Devils own is a very good kit from what Ive read
Im building my own...theyre pretty simple
everything on my car is a back yard build...so why do anything different?
Tailites
12-15-2014, 08:16 PM
Just do it Glen it works..
so hows your car coming along?
onDjuice
12-15-2014, 08:32 PM
^^^ Sleeping. I just finished the n/g heater in the garage. Now looking for a hoist.
TurboFox
12-15-2014, 08:40 PM
just order the cheap ol aquamist kit.
Tailites
12-15-2014, 08:52 PM
^^^ Sleeping. I just finished the n/g heater in the garage. Now looking for a hoist.
youre spoiled from working in the trade...(hoist)
some of the poor dudes on here wrench in the winter on a gravel driveway
Slope
12-15-2014, 08:54 PM
some of the poor dudes on here wrench in the winter on a gravel driveway
I've been that dude.
Don't hate.
Tailites
12-15-2014, 08:55 PM
just order the cheap ol aquamist kit.
ya...it works
by the time I run all over wasting gas & time to source parts
I could have bought the kit cheaper
Tailites
12-15-2014, 08:56 PM
I've been that dude.
Don't hate.
it was pity...not hate
Slope
12-15-2014, 08:57 PM
it was pity...not hate
Don't feel too bad, we've moved up to asphalt.
Tailites
12-15-2014, 09:00 PM
Don't feel too bad, we've moved up to asphalt.
they used to call me a back yard mechanic
but Ive graduated...
I use the front yard now
Tailites
12-15-2014, 09:03 PM
hey man...Tonys gettin a hoist...
guess whos going to be his next best friend?...:cheers:
99chromegt
12-15-2014, 10:37 PM
I've read water/meth is beneficial to run in N/A setups. I was considering trying it. How are the Snow Performance kits with the MAF injector setup? Is this something that can be turned on & off? I'm assuming water/meth & nitrous isn't a good combo to run.
TurboFox
12-15-2014, 10:45 PM
I know a couple ppl that put it on N/As setups and nothing changes
Tailites
12-15-2014, 10:58 PM
I know a couple ppl that put it on N/As setups and nothing changes
what do you mean by nothing changes?..it didnt work?
or you dont need to change anything? to make it work
TurboFox
12-15-2014, 11:00 PM
what do you mean by nothing changes?..it didnt work?
or you dont need to change anything? to make it work
It didn't work on these combos. They were SBCs. Same day track testing...no difference
Tailites
12-15-2014, 11:04 PM
It didn't work on these combos. They were SBCs. Same day track testing...no difference
been on the Bullet a lot...theres guys having good success on NA cars
but I never read that stuff cuz it doesnt apply to what Im doing boosted
but it does work on high compression stuff
Tailites
12-15-2014, 11:09 PM
for me...I just want detonation suppression...the power is already there
I know alot of the buick guys run straight meth and swear by it.
Tailites
12-15-2014, 11:17 PM
I know alot of the buick guys run straight meth and swear by it.
ya been on those forums too...they know their beans no doubt
huge boost HP & no problems
onDjuice
12-16-2014, 10:04 AM
been on the Bullet a lot...theres guys having good success on NA cars
but I never read that stuff cuz it doesnt apply to what Im doing boosted
but it does work on high compression stuff
That's the reason water or meth + boost= good times..
svo1990mustang
12-16-2014, 10:43 AM
I run meth on my DD Mazdaspeed 6 and i will probably be putting it on the 2.3l turbo Mustang next year. I have run 50/50 as well as straight meth, on the Mazda i haven't noticed much of a difference between the two. In the stang that will be running higher boost (up to 25 psi) i will be testing with both a 50/50 mix and a straight meth and see which nets the best results.
Tailites
12-16-2014, 11:46 AM
thats a lot of boost...whats your setup?
svo1990mustang
12-16-2014, 12:05 PM
To much to write out again
http://www.torontomustangclub.ca/forums/showthread.php?2673-svo1990mustang
B-blown
12-16-2014, 12:20 PM
*IF* I can ever get past 15psi without hurting parts I have my water/meth kit installed also ... mine will be a true 50/50 as I but methyl Hydrate by the gallon and distilled water I have found that using a hydrometer that windshield washer fluid can range drastically on the mixture I will have a specific reading once I mix my first batch up on my own
Tailites
12-16-2014, 05:21 PM
you guys can swap 4 banger stories
B-blown
12-18-2014, 02:46 PM
if we wait long enough we can include you due to a v8 split in half making *2* 4 bangers Dw :)
Tailites
12-19-2014, 12:22 AM
if we wait long enough we can include you due to a v8 split in half making *2* 4 bangers Dw :)
yep...Ill have replacements fer both of ya
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