Legit question.

[Darkhorse]

Chevrolet or GMC?

And why....

They have so many sister vehicles...

Silverado/Sierra

Tahoe/Yukon

Traverse/Acadia

Which would you pick and why?

No I'm not buying one I'm just curious.

Are there even that many differences?

[Stephen06GT]

To me, other than the badges and some interior markings they are the same. Way back in the day you could tell the difference between a Cutlass, a Monte Carlo, a Grand Prix, and a Regal by the just looking at them, even if you removed all the badges. Today, not so much.

[bluetoy]

GMC pickup. Chevy are ugly. everything else on them is exactly the same.

[ZR]

Depending on the yr, flipped back n forth between the two.

[MUSTANGWOP]

Chevrolet or GMC?

And why....

They have so many sister vehicles...

Silverado/Sierra

Tahoe/Yukon

Traverse/Acadia

Which would you pick and why?

No I'm not buying one I'm just curious.

Are there even that many differences?

They all have square wheel wells so they are all ugly.

[Darkhorse]

They all have square wheel wells so they are all ugly.

The newest ones are back to being more rounded:

https://di-uploads-pod25.dealerinspire.com/rickhendrickcitychevy/uploads/2023/08/mlp-img-perf-2024-1500.jpg

[Darkhorse]

I was talking about it again last night, if I was NOT a Ford F150 person, I would have a very hard time deciding which other one to pick.

I've had a couple Ram Classic's as rentals and didn't like them. A couple close friends have Ram Sport and Ram Limited and they love them.

I have such GM deep seeded childhood issues, but a couple of the GM trucks look pretty good. The interior just seems like it's still the same parts from 1988.

On a side note, I was told by a couple uber drivers in Quebec that the newest Chevy Blazer full EV is heads and tails amazing, way better than TESLA and very trouble free. 400+ KMS and no issues. Same can't be said for the other GM EV's the Cadillac lyric etc.

It's a very dysfunctional GM relationship.

[Quicksilver]

it's marketing. you can't have a Chevy dealer selling a GMC truck nor can you have a Buick Dealer selling a Chevy truck. The vehicles are, for all intents and purposes, identical. Just marketing.
This of course started many decades ago, in the late 40's i believe, and it's been that way ever since. At one time, Chrysler had Fargo trucks as well as Dodge, and Ford had Mercury branded trucks as well. They were similar to their brethren as well, but the model lineups mimicked their corporate cousins. In 2009, when GM shut down Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Saturn and Hummer because of overlap, it would have made sense to shut down GMC as well, but i suppose the powers that be executives decided it was a good idea not to.

[hammerhead]

I think electric cars is a thorn in the side for car dealerships. I can't see much need for a shop other than to replace batteries in the future. Right now the Ford EV battery replacement is high but that will change I'm sure over time. All other EV's, the replacement is much cheaper than what is heard online. My f150 had 237,000 on it and starting to throw codes and the tranny sucked. It was a good truck for 5.5 years I owned. I didn't even touch the brakes. It was a shame to trade it in because the body was mint the frame was mint and the interior was nice. Still had a lot of years left in it —BUT to replace the engine and tranny I would think a minimum of $20,000.00 (not much different and even more than some battery transplants). I'm not like a person who just quit smoking. I don't have a hate for gas, I'm still working with gas engines. But I'm just not comfortable with modern ICE engineering (another topic)

Driving an EV is much different than an ICE car. If you like performance, I'm not sure EV is the way to go. But if looking for a practical daily driver I think EV is the way to go. When I got the Mach E they had hydrid F150's there but the coyote I owned put a sour taste in my mouth and I wanted nothing to do with a Ford ICE. We did get the the Escape Hybrid and it came with the 2.5ltr instead of the 1.5 turbo Ford offers. 75% of the Escapes driving so far has been mostly battery so I'm thinking the engine should last a long time.

I know this doesn't answer your original question, but you did bring the EV into the equation so I'm offering my 2 cents. Maybe I will revisit Don's question in my past post on the Mach E (How do you like it?) and give a bit of a review. I'm up to 3000K on the clock now. I also want to point out I am a little worried about winter driving with the Mach E but they've been around a while now so not too worried.

If your looking for a new vehicle keeps us post —I too have been admiring the GM's. In the past I think GMC was considered the work version of Chevrolet but I always thought the GMC's looked better.

[Darkhorse]

I think electric cars is a thorn in the side for car dealerships. I can't see much need for a shop other than to replace batteries in the future. Right now the Ford EV battery replacement is high but that will change I'm sure over time. All other EV's, the replacement is much cheaper than what is heard online. My f150 had 237,000 on it and starting to throw codes and the tranny sucked. It was a good truck for 5.5 years I owned. I didn't even touch the brakes. It was a shame to trade it in because the body was mint the frame was mint and the interior was nice. Still had a lot of years left in it —BUT to replace the engine and tranny I would think a minimum of $20,000.00 (not much different and even more than some battery transplants). I'm not like a person who just quit smoking. I don't have a hate for gas, I'm still working with gas engines. But I'm just not comfortable with modern ICE engineering (another topic)

Driving an EV is much different than an ICE car. If you like performance, I'm not sure EV is the way to go. But if looking for a practical daily driver I think EV is the way to go. When I got the Mach E they had hydrid F150's there but the coyote I owned put a sour taste in my mouth and I wanted nothing to do with a Ford ICE. We did get the the Escape Hybrid and it came with the 2.5ltr instead of the 1.5 turbo Ford offers. 75% of the Escapes driving so far has been mostly battery so I'm thinking the engine should last a long time.

I know this doesn't answer your original question, but you did bring the EV into the equation so I'm offering my 2 cents. Maybe I will revisit Don's question in my past post on the Mach E (How do you like it?) and give a bit of a review. I'm up to 3000K on the clock now. I also want to point out I am a little worried about winter driving with the Mach E but they've been around a while now so not too worried.

If your looking for a new vehicle keeps us post —I too have been admiring the GM's. In the past I think GMC was considered the work version of Chevrolet but I always thought the GMC's looked better.

Lots of good info there. I drive a Powerboost F150, it's the second one, I had a 3.5 eco before that and three coyotes before that. The powerboost is flat out amazing, but the second powerboost has had a string and I mean a string of TSB's and recalls. The truck has been at the dealer weekly from Jan to June, but I think (knock wood) I'm past all that now. It's been 2 months and some very long trips and all good. It takes patience, my dealer only has literally one guy that works on the powerboosts, and he had to go to headquarters a few times to figure out what was happening. He also had a lot of frequent days off, so my truck would be there two days at a time some weeks. I'm happy to say, it's been all good now, but others around me were chirping about it. I held faith. On a trip to Florida I made it there in 2.5 tanks of gas. The powerboost makes a huge difference and tows like there is nothing there.

As for a full EV, I just won't do it. not in a pick-up truck, not yet anyway. The Silverado Full EV, is similar to the new Hummer, I think I would try that one before any Lightning, I think they are horrible.

I also don't buy the Mach E is everything it could be just yet. Quebec has the largest government rebate on the EV's but apparently that ends this Dec.

I agree an Escape hybrid is likely a great choice. I think we are at Hybrid peak period, full EV I still don't trust it. I know people in Vancouver (lots of EV's) but when they go down the coast to California, they take gas vehicles to be safe. local commuter an EV works. In California they already tell people days not to charge their cars.....wtf......

GMC was supposed to be the "professional grade" GM vs Chevy, but I don't see any differences anymore. I think I used to prefer GMC, but now lately, I think the Chevrolet has the slight edge in looks.

[Laffs]

It's half badge engineering and half splitting hairs on trim and options. Some folks just assume Chevys are longer lasting, others swear GMCs are stronger. It's all the same in the end.

Silverado is essentially cheaper across the trim levels as well. Example: when I order base model work trucks its cheaper to get the Silverado WT as it has less base features and is essentially $1,000 cheaper off the MSRP, usually 2-3k cheaper fleet price when compared to the Sierra PRO model.

When you go higher trim level it's then a weird mix of "depends what you want". If you want a "sporty" looking truck with painted bumpers, 20s, decent cloth interior $66k gets you that in a the RST Silverado vs. $69k on the Elevation trim Sierra, for essenitally same unpinnings but the GMC seats have slightly nicer stitching, more painted interior pieces and all the GMCs have the 6 way tailgates with the step in them thats an option in the Sierras.

When you go fully upstream to the high trims like the Silverado High Country or the GMC Denali/Denali Ultimate it narrows but GMC still starts slightly higher and stays slightly higher. High County you have to option up Super Cruise and 22'' wheels as well as power retract steps which is all a Denali Ultimate standard and cheap to option to a regular Denali. Also the Silverado can't get Mag ride where the Denali does.

99% of Consumers would be perfectly happy with the Silverado at any trim level but a lot of people pay extra to get the GMC on the grill and Denali/Ultimate on the fender badge for stuff they never use. This runs the gamut with the SUVS as well.

Personally I don't like the tech in the GMCs even the new giant screen in the high trim trucks. Always feels clunky and slow to me, plus I find their seats to be uncomfortable as fuck compared to Ram and Ford.

[Darkhorse]

It's half badge engineering and half splitting hairs on trim and options. Some folks just assume Chevys are longer lasting, others swear GMCs are stronger. It's all the same in the end.

Silverado is essentially cheaper across the trim levels as well. Example: when I order base model work trucks its cheaper to get the Silverado WT as it has less base features and is essentially $1,000 cheaper off the MSRP, usually 2-3k cheaper fleet price when compared to the Sierra PRO model.

When you go higher trim level it's then a weird mix of "depends what you want". If you want a "sporty" looking truck with painted bumpers, 20s, decent cloth interior $66k gets you that in a the RST Silverado vs. $69k on the Elevation trim Sierra, for essenitally same unpinnings but the GMC seats have slightly nicer stitching, more painted interior pieces and all the GMCs have the 6 way tailgates with the step in them thats an option in the Sierras.

When you go fully upstream to the high trims like the Silverado High Country or the GMC Denali/Denali Ultimate it narrows but GMC still starts slightly higher and stays slightly higher. High County you have to option up Super Cruise and 22'' wheels as well as power retract steps which is all a Denali Ultimate standard and cheap to option to a regular Denali. Also the Silverado can't get Mag ride where the Denali does.

99% of Consumers would be perfectly happy with the Silverado at any trim level but a lot of people pay extra to get the GMC on the grill and Denali/Ultimate on the fender badge for stuff they never use. This runs the gamut with the SUVS as well.

Personally I don't like the tech in the GMCs even the new giant screen in the high trim trucks. Always feels clunky and slow to me, plus I find their seats to be uncomfortable as fuck compared to Ram and Ford.

^^^^ High quality post!!!

[MUSTANGWOP]

The newest ones are back to being more rounded:

https://di-uploads-pod25.dealerinspire.com/rickhendrickcitychevy/uploads/2023/08/mlp-img-perf-2024-1500.jpg

Yes, they are slowly rounding them out because they realized how silly the square ones look.

[hammerhead]

Lots of good info there. I drive a Powerboost F150, it's the second one, I had a 3.5 eco before that and three coyotes before that. The powerboost is flat out amazing, but the second powerboost has had a string and I mean a string of TSB's and recalls. The truck has been at the dealer weekly from Jan to June, but I think (knock wood) I'm past all that now. It's been 2 months and some very long trips and all good. It takes patience, my dealer only has literally one guy that works on the powerboosts, and he had to go to headquarters a few times to figure out what was happening. He also had a lot of frequent days off, so my truck would be there two days at a time some weeks. I'm happy to say, it's been all good now, but others around me were chirping about it. I held faith. On a trip to Florida I made it there in 2.5 tanks of gas. The powerboost makes a huge difference and tows like there is nothing there.

As for a full EV, I just won't do it. not in a pick-up truck, not yet anyway. The Silverado Full EV, is similar to the new Hummer, I think I would try that one before any Lightning, I think they are horrible.

I also don't buy the Mach E is everything it could be just yet. Quebec has the largest government rebate on the EV's but apparently that ends this Dec.

I agree an Escape hybrid is likely a great choice. I think we are at Hybrid peak period, full EV I still don't trust it. I know people in Vancouver (lots of EV's) but when they go down the coast to California, they take gas vehicles to be safe. local commuter an EV works. In California they already tell people days not to charge their cars.....wtf......

GMC was supposed to be the "professional grade" GM vs Chevy, but I don't see any differences anymore. I think I used to prefer GMC, but now lately, I think the Chevrolet has the slight edge in looks.

I have to agree with you about about the Mach E. I purchased the extended warranty and may trade it |I around 100,000K about 2yrs. Just going to follow the changes if any. Yah |I considered a Lightning but really don't see the point. I wanted a car because I've spent a large part of my life in service trucks. I don't think the grid in Ontario will be taxed enough for brown outs or charging rules. California and Texas. Power hungry states I really don't think EV's are the problem for their grids. The giant "Cloud" facilities eat up a lot of hydro so peeps car store pictures of their cats on their Iphones. LOL —If I stick with EV's I will plan a solar charging station


Good to see your truck is sorted out —unfortunately I didn't or don't have the time for down time. It really sucks because at one time I thought the coyote was awesome.