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Are there any TV and Internet service providers in the Toronto area that are better,cheaper and more reliable than Rogers and Bell or is one basically stuck with one of those two devils?
Rogers wants to end digital cable in the near future and switch/force everyone to Ignite which appears to have problems.
Stephen06GT
04-28-2023, 09:31 PM
In the same boat here in Bolton debating whether or not to switch to Ignite.
FABMAN
04-28-2023, 10:36 PM
I have ignite, it seems to work fine. Regular TV is horrible now, basically keep it as it is cheaper to bundle than have standalone internet.
These days I only watch some limited “news”, weather and some sports. Rest is pretty much garbage.
Check out Carry Telecom (https://carrytel.ca)
My brother in law uses them and has been happy. Just get a better package as they charge heavily to upgrade afterwards.
R3troGT
04-29-2023, 06:47 AM
I have had Ignite for years. No issues (other then the price lol)
Scrape
04-29-2023, 07:18 AM
Same here.
I have had Ignite for years. No issues (other then the price lol)
Zexhuffer
05-02-2023, 01:17 AM
If you still have cable TV you've never heard of iptv.
Thousands of channels all ppv, f1 and all local shit too etc...ill never have cable TV again. Rogers high speed for 39.99 and that's it.
mavrrrick
05-02-2023, 06:35 AM
^^^more details if possible....thinking of going that route as well^^^
MUSTANGWOP
05-02-2023, 09:09 AM
We made the switch to IPTV about 6 months ago and will never go back to cable for the price alone. We piggy backed on a friends subscription for a few months to give it a try before cancelling our Shaw and making the switch. We had no issue with Shaw (actually they were the best provider we had ever had) other than the price, just like the other big players. We now pay for a year what we used to pay for one month.
mavrrrick
05-02-2023, 10:41 AM
so how do you go about getting IPTV? sry... not a tech person
MUSTANGWOP
05-02-2023, 11:23 AM
so how do you go about getting IPTV? sry... not a tech person
Neither am I Mav. Had a guy I work with set it all up. I bought 2 firesticks when they were 50% off, he loaded them up and set it all up. I pay the provider directly but that's the easy part.
Zexhuffer
05-02-2023, 01:07 PM
^^^more details if possible....thinking of going that route as well^^^
Ok basically you need a android box, can buy it for yourself or buy from provider...(the contact person) costs about 150 for service a year plus box which is 100-200 depending on box you choose.
He will set it all up and all you need to do is hook up to internet and TV and it's done.
Insane amount of channels and features I love f1, ppv fights ,pvr but don't ever use it cause you can go back a up to 48rs and start most channels. Every TV station in can,us,UK its insane I don't use 90% not too mention almost 300 channels of porn if you like that stuff lol.
Hope this helps, anymore questions ask away
If you still have cable TV you've never heard of iptv.
Thousands of channels all ppv, f1 and all local shit too etc...ill never have cable TV again. Rogers high speed for 39.99 and that's it.
I've heard of IPTV and was going to mention it but you beat me to it as I haven't been on here in a few days.
Rogers Ignite is IPTV from my understanding but they charge way too much and offer limited channels compared to IPTV providers who base their servers outside of Canada and offer way more channels dirt cheap in comparison to Rogers.
From my limited knowledge,it's legal,just need to find a reputable provider.
I've had it with those Rogers mofo's.
92redragtop
05-02-2023, 11:14 PM
Ask any south asian person and they'll hook you up...lol.
I've been meaning to get a box to try it out but haven't gotten around to it yet. Now that Bill C-11 is law I'm curious if they will try to use it against IPTV services.
ChickenLips
05-03-2023, 09:07 AM
I have an antenna, as well as borrowed PW's from my kid's Crave.
TBH I have a hard time finding anything not riddled with overt messaging. Better programming just is covert in messaging. While I enjoyed it, if you think Yellowstone isn't riddled with messaging, you're buying it.
I've been noodling with the idea of making my own home based PVR for capture/storage of antenna based programming.
mavrrrick
05-03-2023, 10:10 AM
What if you have multiple tv's? do you need account for each tv?
Zexhuffer
05-03-2023, 12:14 PM
What if you have multiple tv's? do you need account for each tv?
Yes sir. We have it in the bsmt which we watched 95% of the time. We've moved it up to other tvs when we were sick or when traveling. We've taken it to different family members houses to watch ppv or just to have movies and TV wherever we go
bluetoy
05-03-2023, 01:33 PM
What if you have multiple tv's? do you need account for each tv?
I have shared my login info with a few friends and they can all access my IPTV at any time. Even at the same time as me. You do need an Android box for each TV though.
hsousa88
05-03-2023, 02:14 PM
I stopped paying for cable about 8-9 years ago. Made the switch from dsl to fibe when it was introduced in our area and it’s been great.. 0 down time in 3-4 years. It’s pricey but evens out since there’s no tv to pay for.
Scott
05-03-2023, 03:17 PM
I resisted IGNITE for a long time as I had purchased four cable boxes to avoid the rental costs (about a 2-year payback as I recall). When I finally moved to IGNITE I absolutely love it (everything except the price of course) and would have jumped to it much sooner had I known how good it was. Two of my daughters live with us and we have ten TV's in the household (6 with IGNITE boxes).
Minaccia
05-03-2023, 04:00 PM
If you go with IPTV don't forget to add a good VPN so you're hidden from your internet provider. Check these 2 providers for IPTV.
https://onaexpress.com/
https://xtremehdiptv.org/
Also, when buying an Android box spend at least $100 so you know you're getting a good product. As for the IPTV Player software I use Televizio.
There is a bit to learn but once you get it you'll be happy you switched.
Anyone ever have IPTV issues like buffering,freezing,blocking?
bluetoy
05-04-2023, 07:37 AM
Anyone ever have IPTV issues like buffering,freezing,blocking?
Buffering, freezing. yes.
MUSTANGWOP
05-04-2023, 09:02 AM
Buffering, freezing. yes.
Yes there is some of this (but tolerable to me) but it's not always a provider issue. It can be an internet speed issue too.
For the yearly cost savings, I'll deal with the minor blips.
Minaccia
05-04-2023, 10:51 AM
I don't experience freezing or blocking but when I used the cheaper Android boxes and cheap IPTV service providers the buffering was worse. I hardly get buffering now.
Anyone ever have IPTV issues like buffering,freezing,blocking?
Chinga
05-09-2023, 10:30 AM
Rogers hasn't been supporting cable boxes for several years now. So now, if you have an issue with them they force you in to Ignite. Of course, the pricing is insane (once the introductory ankle grabbing pricing period is over) and the content is mostly absolute garbage. I especially like checking the channels on the weekend only to find that 4 - 5 channels are "Paid Programming" or if they were honest "informercials". There are at times issues with buffering or freezing, but nothing that lasts very long or may require you to reset the router.
A friend of mine works out of province for stretches at a time has the Android box and takes it with him to use at his hotel or rental house. He absolutely loves it and says that there is more content than he could ever watch.
My wife and I have been discussing making this change and I'm glad this topic came up so I can relay this information to her.
Blackmare
05-09-2023, 11:45 AM
I've been using Android boxes for years (Nvidia Shield Pro) and haven't looked back.
We bring a box with us wherever we are and they work great.
True Blue
05-09-2023, 01:47 PM
I've been using Android boxes for years (Nvidia Shield Pro) and haven't looked back.
Same here...
All the content (tv shows and movies) can be found for free on the box. I have a OTA for my local channels. Haven't had cable in 13 years and I don't miss it!
Snaketamer
05-09-2023, 03:58 PM
Currently have Cogeco cable... $125/mth Then, I have Distributel for internet... $65/month(cable modem). If I cancel Cogeco, do I loose my internet? Do I have to go DSL(Bell)?
Blackmare
05-09-2023, 07:01 PM
Currently have Cogeco cable... $125/mth Then, I have Distributel for internet... $65/month(cable modem). If I cancel Cogeco, do I loose my internet? Do I have to go DSL(Bell)?The cable and internet shouldn't be interdependent. Distributel should cover you if you have decent throughput if you want to solely stream. It would depend on the number of devices and the network bandwidth to determine if your package is up to it.
A good android box also goes a long way to ensure a good experience.
Same here...
All the content (tv shows and movies) can be found for free on the box. I have a OTA for my local channels. Haven't had cable in 13 years and I don't miss it!
Can you explain the free part of your comment?
True Blue
05-10-2023, 09:24 AM
Can you explain the free part of your comment?
Without going into detail on an open forum. Aside from IPTV, there are apps and websites that can be used on an android box for free tv shows and movies. Having a box can give you endless options, you just need to know how to access it.
Snaketamer
08-18-2024, 10:22 AM
Making the switch to iptv... tired of paying $130/month for tv with nothing to watch. Packed up the equipment and sent it back to Cogeco.
Ordered a Shield Pro box and waiting for it to arrive.
Interested to hear how you make out with it.
^^^Same here.
Hopefully you find a reliable IPTV service provider.
Styrofoam04
08-19-2024, 04:34 PM
I switched to IPTV a few months ago.
I dropped Rogers for Bell fibe internet (comes with a TV app and free box). 1.5gb for $50 a month. I also dropped my streaming services like Netflix and Disney+... dont need them anymore its all on IPTV
For aboot $40 more than the cost of Standard Netflix for 1 year... I get 4K IPTV for 2 devices for 2 years
I use Tivimate (one time cost of $40)
I bought 2 fire sticks 4k on sale
Its on sale now
https://www.amazon.ca/All-new-Amazon-streaming-device-support/dp/B0BXFV1R3S/ref=sr_1_7?crid=3SET2Z1HIN2WA&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Lq9N9jivgeyLbROSoZMbYZXZZOaekBimm hOlx6oq4IF5FRW3hruzoD6m7EGzeRL_RDDQwFH0fvbyBRUk0vO xcsiMxguUmpamHFYpWjoux3yfhmunSHk9o8lxhm9H4b51CJ1M0 oHlVy7sqaJ1qFca9xKUZRs4AinppDcQJp-tQwLl1f75MpcgUnNSc0cbwi5lDlAtta23-8vF_qXPX1ewmYVzsK8swqmbggFcBT_aiv_z1L3H69wFjdMc1n8 ISCfshn2R9-KA7zpCtF_KlUf7fabvYQYUfrXUfrX1yaqy6cs.L_mEH2aS0XXd feA80fs_CfaVlYQB4yh41AdfwivkAKE&dib_tag=se&keywords=fire+stick&qid=1724098677&sprefix=fire%2Caps%2C95&sr=8-7
Side Note:
Don't go too cheap on your internets, You need a min of 10mb/s of the internets to play anything and that's with high buffering. The further you are away from the router the less internets you get. so run a speed test where your TVs are.
Snaketamer
08-19-2024, 05:29 PM
Which iptv service did you go with?
Styrofoam04
08-27-2024, 02:05 PM
PM me. I don't like posting the link.
Styrofoam04
09-24-2024, 02:03 PM
I just found out that My Bell increased my internets by $5. I haven't even had it for 6 months yet!
MUSTANGWOP
09-24-2024, 02:33 PM
^^^Same here.
Hopefully you find a reliable IPTV service provider.
That's the main trick. For the price you should expect a few issues. They are usually temporary issues, then I remind myself how much $$$ I'm saving per month/year and it's easy to get past the issues.
MUSTANGWOP
09-24-2024, 02:36 PM
I switched to IPTV a few months ago.
I dropped Rogers for Bell fibe internet (comes with a TV app and free box). 1.5gb for $50 a month. I also dropped my streaming services like Netflix and Disney+... dont need them anymore its all on IPTV
For aboot $40 more than the cost of Standard Netflix for 1 year... I get 4K IPTV for 2 devices for 2 years
I use Tivimate (one time cost of $40)
I bought 2 fire sticks 4k on sale
Its on sale now
https://www.amazon.ca/All-new-Amazon-streaming-device-support/dp/B0BXFV1R3S/ref=sr_1_7?crid=3SET2Z1HIN2WA&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Lq9N9jivgeyLbROSoZMbYZXZZOaekBimm hOlx6oq4IF5FRW3hruzoD6m7EGzeRL_RDDQwFH0fvbyBRUk0vO xcsiMxguUmpamHFYpWjoux3yfhmunSHk9o8lxhm9H4b51CJ1M0 oHlVy7sqaJ1qFca9xKUZRs4AinppDcQJp-tQwLl1f75MpcgUnNSc0cbwi5lDlAtta23-8vF_qXPX1ewmYVzsK8swqmbggFcBT_aiv_z1L3H69wFjdMc1n8 ISCfshn2R9-KA7zpCtF_KlUf7fabvYQYUfrXUfrX1yaqy6cs.L_mEH2aS0XXd feA80fs_CfaVlYQB4yh41AdfwivkAKE&dib_tag=se&keywords=fire+stick&qid=1724098677&sprefix=fire%2Caps%2C95&sr=8-7
Side Note:
Don't go too cheap on your internets, You need a min of 10mb/s of the internets to play anything and that's with high buffering. The further you are away from the router the less internets you get. so run a speed test where your TVs are.
This is right in line with what we did. Took some time for us to finally pull the trigger and switch but now we won't go back.
mavrrrick
09-24-2024, 05:52 PM
Can you guys give more details. Box cost and so on. I have more than 2 tv’s so….?
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MUSTANGWOP
09-25-2024, 06:39 AM
Can you guys give more details. Box cost and so on. I have more than 2 tv’s so….?
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Ours run off Amazon fire sticks (one per TV, or move one from TV to TV) which we picked up half price during black Friday sales. Our IPTV service costs us about $120/year for 2 connections (2 fire sticks). I had a co-worker set up all the apps, settings, etc on the fire sticks, now I just pay the provider upon the due date. Our satellite service was costing us about $125/month when we jumped ship and I'm sure it's gone up since then.
I don't know a great deal more about it, just enough to keep it running smoothly.
Styrofoam04
09-27-2024, 09:22 AM
I find the Fire Stick quick and easy, but you can use any android box. We only have the two Sticks but we have 4 TVs. We just switch where we are. The fire stick is small and I take it up to the cottage or on vacation. As long as you have good Internets and a TV with HDMI you are good to go. Though like I said before there's a minimum internets you need. Found that out the hard way at my parents. 10 mins of buffering for 10 sec of movie.
MUSTANGWOP
09-27-2024, 10:04 AM
I find the Fire Stick quick and easy, but you can use any android box. We only have the two Sticks but we have 4 TVs. We just switch where we are. The fire stick is small and I take it up to the cottage or on vacation. As long as you have good Internets and a TV with HDMI you are good to go. Though like I said before there's a minimum internets you need. Found that out the hard way at my parents. 10 mins of buffering for 10 sec of movie.
Agreed with the internet speed. The way we approached that was we paid for a decent internet speed but with the savings on the TV service every month, it soaks up the internet cost pretty quick.
Like you said, the fire stick can easily go anywhere with you.
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