Let's talk tires for my GT 500

[FABMAN]

ahh, gotcha

yeah, I have the same tires on mine (Cup 2's), very sticky, not so good in the cold though and they pick up every fucking rock and pebble on the ground LOL, I'm keeping them for track only and will be putting on a set of 4S for the street. Unfortunately they don't make it in a 315 for the rear which is stock size but I'm going just go with the 325, a lot of people doing that with no issues and the tread wear on the 4S is like triple the cup 2 so that will be good at least LOL

Dave I run a Nitto INVO 325 on the rear of mine without any issues at all. Contemplating going wider next time for the street (345) but need to check fitment to ensure they wont poke. A 305/30 front with 325/30 rear on your car would be amazing.

[fast Ed]

Nitto Invo tires have been around forever now. Tire technology progresses so quickly that better choices are available in the same price range.

[Ghost Rider]

Dave I run a Nitto INVO 325 on the rear of mine without any issues at all. Contemplating going wider next time for the street (345) but need to check fitment to ensure they wont poke. A 305/30 front with 325/30 rear on your car would be amazing.


What size wheels are you running Fab? Do you have a pic of current setup? Mine already poke out a bit on 11.5" rear on the stock setup, I kinda like that look though so as long as no rubbing I'm cool with it. From what I've read the Nitto runs a little narrower than the Michelin on same size street tires (I know for sure the 555's do cause we measured Matt's 315 vs. my 315 and it was about .5" difference across

[mavrrrick]

Are the 555's a decent tire? its what I'm thinking about in spring. And any ideas of cost?

[fast Ed]

A new version of the 555s came out a few years ago, NT555 G2 ... they have decent reviews and test results. The original 555 was getting very long in the tooth as well. I suspect that the Invo is likely due to be updated or replaced at some point, they've been out probably 10 years which is an eternity in the performance tire world.

[mavrrrick]

Are G2 all season or strictly summer or avail in both. Want summer tire. Know where I can get deal?

[Ghost Rider]

Are G2 all season or strictly summer or avail in both. Want summer tire. Know where I can get deal?

G2 just means Gen 2 version of that tire and no the triple 5's are NOT all season... And no deals on tires... always expensive!! LOL :D

[mavrrrick]

Thx...on my to do list...don't think GY f1's gonna cut it.?

[fast Ed]

We can get Nitto through Parkway, but sort of the wrong side of the GTA for you!

I think that DaSilva was selling the brand as well, you could check in with them.

[Ghost Rider]

Thx...on my to do list...don't think GY f1's gonna cut it.?

I have F1's on both Mach's they have been amazing tires... one of the highest rated for wet weather as well, but I don't think they come in your size

one of my favourite tread patterns though

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+F1+GS-D3

[Ghost Rider]

I've hijacked this thread...sry.....I have F1's on it now. They are that good??

If you have GS-D3's yes... I don't know what F1's you have, there are like 84 different types... did you click the link I posted? Does yours look like that?

[fast Ed]

Almost all of the Goodyear performance tires are named Eagle F1 with another notation after that, they have about 10 different tires with the designation. The OEM GT-500 tires on your year were the Eagle F1 Supercar I think which are fast wearing but have decent grip ... an older tire that has been surpassed.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+F1+Supercar


Dave your F1 GS-D3 were a top rated tire back in the day, especially in the wet as you mentioned. I had a set on my T-Bird SC for a while. They are only made in limited sizes now, and again time marches on and gives us better choices.

[Ghost Rider]

Almost all of the Goodyear performance tires are named Eagle F1 with another notation after that, they have about 10 different tires with the designation. The OEM GT-500 tires on your year were the Eagle F1 Supercar I think which are fast wearing but have decent grip ... an older tire that has been surpassed.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+F1+Supercar


Dave your F1 GS-D3 were a top rated tire back in the day, especially in the wet as you mentioned. I had a set on my T-Bird SC for a while. They are only made in limited sizes now, and again time marches on and gives us better choices.

True...

and yeah I just went back to check, only two sizes available now (on tire rack anyways)... both for 17 which is fine for new edge cars but not so much for newer models now...

[Ghost Rider]

Mav, just get yourself a set of 4S's and be done with it... dual compound, top notch street tire, great on the track as well if you go and decent in cooler temps I'm sure they make them in a size for your beast... they are not cheapest tire by any means but you do get what you pay for according to reviews I've read and people that have used them on street and track... Your a Shelby guy... you can afford it!!!

[mavrrrick]

How much are they? I have deep pockets but have short arms. Lol


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[Ghost Rider]

How much are they? I have deep pockets but have short arms. Lol


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Jeeeeesus... bend at the waist man!!

depends what size you are going to go with... you can PM Parkway for a quote if you know what size

[Dilbert]

I've hijacked this thread...sry.....I have F1's on it now. They are that good??

Hijack away, interesting info here....

[FABMAN]

What size wheels are you running Fab? Do you have a pic of current setup? Mine already poke out a bit on 11.5" rear on the stock setup, I kinda like that look though so as long as no rubbing I'm cool with it. From what I've read the Nitto runs a little narrower than the Michelin on same size street tires (I know for sure the 555's do cause we measured Matt's 315 vs. my 315 and it was about .5" difference across

Hey Dave, I think these are the best pictures I have right now. Rims are SVE SP2 19x10 front and 19x11 rear with a +50 off set to fit flush. Next tire I go with will likely be the wider fitting Michelin PS4S so maybe I will stick with 325 wide.

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17048
Rear 325 tires
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[FABMAN]

Thx...on my to do list...don't think GY f1's gonna cut it.?

Hey Mav, I have had both the 555g2 and the INVOs on my GT and I actually prefer the INVO. I found the G2 didn’t hook well unless it was pretty warm outside. Can’t comment on wet as I usually don’t drive it on rainy days.

That said, the PS4S seems to be the tire of choice right now (but more money). Although I have never tried them the new Firestone Indy 500 tires seem to be getting good reviews as well on Mustangs and they are really affordable options.

I believe newbie put those on his black 2014 GT so perhaps he can chime in on his thoughts.

[fast Ed]

The Indy 500 are great tires for the $$. Have them on my SVO (admittedly a low-powered car compared to modern stuff), and also had them on an Ecoboost demo I had a few summers ago. Pretty good size range they have in that model too. They do tend to be a bit noisier than premium performance tires though, especially on older road surfaces.

https://www.firestonetire.ca/tire/firehawk-indy-500



Maybe a moderator should split off this portion of the thread pertaining to tire discussion ... ????

[newbiestangowner]

^^

I moved the tire discussion from the other thread thanks to a THREAD SABATEUR :stickpoke:- sorry if it feels disjointed.

Fantastic tire on the lower price point segment ,impressed with wet/dry, can’t complain from a dig or roll, ( remember though this is slo turd speed) not douche category and pushed them harder last time at TMP I was very happy.
I think I’m going on my 3rd or 4th season - and slo turd is used pretty much as a family hauler/ daily during driving season.
Not as quiet as preimium - but I’ve driven to New York/ Washington and didn’t hear them over the exhaust.
Nice when warm/ hot - it’s a stone , pebble thrower as well.
I think I’ll probably go for a 2nd set when the time comes; it gets the job done.
All in with install for $948-1000 , cheaper still if firestone running a promotion.

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255 fronts 19/9
285 rears 19/10
* note it’s only W rated *

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[mavrrrick]

LOL.:facepalm:

[Ghost Rider]

okay, now that tires are out of the way... what do you guys think about Super Charging??

[fast Ed]

Supercharging is fine, as long as you have the right tires.

[newbiestangowner]

Wait till Mavrrrick gets on this (his own thread) :)


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[mavrrrick]

Good lord... what have I done???


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[fast Ed]

Another premium tire that is almost as good as the Michelin P 4 S is the Continental Extreme Contact Sport:

https://www.continentaltire.ca/car/tires/extremecontact-sport

In many of the larger sizes that would be suitable for S197s and S550s, they can be $50-100 per tire less than the Michelins. I may go with these on my 17 GT, but without a supercharger.

[Ghost Rider]

^^^ lol


hmmm, these ones also, no 315's, would need 325

[Hutch]

I have 315/35/20 nitto NT05R and I can usually get solid traction in 2nd gear with making 711hp. They are a drag radial. I have got caught in the rain with them and they weren’t horrible as long as you drive appropriately for rain.

[fast Ed]

^^^ lol


hmmm, these ones also, no 315's, would need 325

I think the 350R might be the only OEM application for 315/30R19, hence the lack of replacement choices. The 325/30R19 is used by Porsche at least, and I think a few others.

[FABMAN]

More options in a 345/30/19 as well. I believe that Chevy put that size on late model Z06 and Dodge used this size for the Viper. However, Heinz is the only one I can think of running that size tire and I cannot advise if they will poke on an S550. Definitely won’t fit an S197 without serious modifications.

[Ghost Rider]

More options in a 345/30/19 as well. I believe that Chevy put that size on late model Z06 and Dodge used this size for the Viper. However, Heinz is the only one I can think of running that size tire and I cannot advise if they will poke on an S550. Definitely won’t fit an S197 without serious modifications.

Viper also had a 12" rim though which helps. For the Vette do you mean the brand new c8? I don't think last gen had wires that tide...

[fast Ed]

Was just going to say for that tire size to work properly it should be on a 12-13" wide wheel, not jammed on an 11 or 11.5".

[Gr8Stang]

Here's what I'd like on my GT500....when the time comes. Have them currently and they hook nice...in the warm weather.

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[FABMAN]

Was just going to say for that tire size to work properly it should be on a 12-13" wide wheel, not jammed on an 11 or 11.5".

I would have to agree. 12” wide rim should be the minimum for that size in a 19” 30 series tire. I believe that my 325 rears are the maximum width that should be installed on a 11” rim.

[ZR]

Funny, several of the top rated tires I honestly would not give you a nickle for.

[N89]

How about a 295 front and 305 rear, that’s what I have on my R spec wheels.
Tires are a bit stretched but I like it and it works on this car.
The R wheel already sticks out of the fenders about 1/2” so depending on the tire manufacturer going to a 325 may be a bit much.
Here are some pics, or you can come by and check it out , it may change your mind.
This is on the oem GT350 super sport tires

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19379
19380
19381

[N89]

Never mind, just remembered that you will need a 30 series tire.
That probably wouldn’t work on the R spec rims.

[Ghost Rider]

poor tires :(

That's the GT350 Yoga Edition!!

[fast Ed]

295/35R19 ... wheel width range 10.0 - 11.5"
305/35R19 ... wheel width range 10.0 - 12.0"

so those are OK, just maxed out (I'm assuming those wheels are the same widths as factory 350R)

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Super+Sport

[N89]

295/35R19 ... wheel width range 10.0 - 11.5"
305/35R19 ... wheel width range 10.0 - 12.0"

so those are OK, just maxed out (I'm assuming those wheels are the same widths as factory 350R)

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Super+Sport


Yes the wheels are the same size as the R wheels. 11” fronts and 11.5” rears.

[N89]

poor tires :(

That's the GT350 Yoga Edition!!


LOL. Yeah yoga pant edition
No old lady’s were harmed in the making of this post.

[ZR]

That tire does not look like it's in a happy place.

[N89]

That tire does not look like it's in a happy place.


Why not? It’s in a heated garage nice and warm nothing to be sad about lol.
I’m actually loving the look right now.

[Ghost Rider]

Why not? It’s in a heated garage nice and warm nothing to be sad about lol.
I’m actually loving the look right now.

it is a fancy garage, I'll give ya that!!


LOL

[N89]

it is a fancy garage, I'll give ya that!!


LOL

Thanks, it is fancy!
But seriously Spring is almost here and it doesn’t look like the Michelin’s are going to be available any time soon. have you considered the Cooper tires?
I think I read somewhere that they are available in the R size

[mavrrrick]

Think I'm gonna go nitto 555 route.

[Ghost Rider]

Thanks, it is fancy!
But seriously Spring is almost here and it doesn’t look like the Michelin’s are going to be available any time soon. have you considered the Cooper tires?
I think I read somewhere that they are available in the R size

Spring? How far South does Keswick go??? The North is still Wintering!!

[N89]

Spring? How far South does Keswick go??? The North is still Wintering!!



You have to think positive brother!
January is over and February is a short month, like i said Spring is almost here.

[Ghost Rider]

1:25



https://youtu.be/7yd_TxjsFu0?t=1m25s

[N89]

1:25



https://youtu.be/7yd_TxjsFu0?t=1m25s


LOL, you just made me spill my coffee laughing.
I miss Seinfeld.

[mavrrrick]

Well, changing tires for sure...Goodyear F1's have production date of 1413. If I'm correct, thats 14th week of 2013?

[Blackmare]

Well, changing tires for sure...Goodyear F1's have production date of 1413. If I'm correct, thats 14th week of 2013?

Correct.

[mavrrrick]

Hmmmm....7 year old tires....replace??? lol

[Blackmare]

I would.

:mechanic:

[Ghost Rider]

Well, changing tires for sure...Goodyear F1's have production date of 1413. If I'm correct, thats 14th week of 2013?

wait, what years your car? '11?

[mavrrrick]

with h/p and speeds this car can do...I agree

[fast Ed]

Yes, pushing 500+ hp through aged out tires is not a good idea ... especially for Cars'N'Coffee exits.

[ZR]

Big power n hard old tires, not a good recipe.

[mavrrrick]

Ya..2011 GR, means originals lasted 2 years...lol

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Yes, pushing 500+ hp through aged out tires is not a good idea ... especially for Cars'N'Coffee exits.

I don't want to end up on YouTube!!! lol

[mavrrrick]

Looking at Videos on youtube (laugh now). Opinions on Nitto 555R's. Put on rears and 555 on front??

[Ghost Rider]

Looking at Videos on youtube (laugh now). Opinions on Nitto 555R's. Put on rears and 555 on front??

NO, you Lunatic!! you don't mix compounds!

least it's no advisable for the track (maybe street is okay if you're not driving like a Lunatic... but I get the feeling that's not you!) LOL jk


but regardless, your rears will wear out much quicker than the fronts as the 'R's' are a much softer compound... better for traction sure, but for lessor period of time, we don't need you whining about tires every two months Sir!

:D

[mavrrrick]

Guess 555's are gonna be it then. Thanks for everyones much needed and appreciated input.

[fast Ed]

If you are primarily concerned with acceleration grip then yes go with something like the 555R on the back. They mix fine with regular 555 up front as long as you're not pushing really hard through corners. Although the 555R is a softer compound, it also has sidewalls designed for maximizing straight line traction as opposed to other "all-around" performance tires being made for cornering stability.

[Ghost Rider]

I think the only way his car is going to see the track is if his wife grabs the keys!! I don't know if Mav has it in him!! *runs and hides* :D

[mavrrrick]

LMFAO....I have tears in my eyes...LMFAO....Fuck, JUST FELL OFF CHAIR!!!

[mavrrrick]

I'm still laughing....thats the best one yet GR!! ...still laughing!!!

[dubbs]

I run 345s on my Shelby, but I had to get custom rims and do some body mods. I will post some pics later tonight

[Blackmare]

I'm still laughing....thats the best one yet GR!! ...still laughing!!!

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[Ghost Rider]

I run 345s on my Shelby, but I had to get custom rims and do some body mods. I will post some pics later tonight

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[Slick_89_Hatch]

Guess 555's are gonna be it then. Thanks for everyones much needed and appreciated input.

I ran 555R's on the back of my Fox for almost 5 summers at about 3-5K per summer. Of all the DR's they seem to last the longest.

[mavrrrick]

I was talked into the 4S, have to check bank account.

[Gr8Stang]

I was talked into the 4S, have to check bank account.

If you haven't already, cHeck out the reviews on tirerack.com before you decide to buy'em.

[fast Ed]

The Continental ExtremeContact Sport are almost as good as the Michelin 4 S (in other words still really good) for quite a bit less money in some of the larger sizes. When I look at your 255/40R19 & 285/35R19 staggered combo on the Ford Canada pricing, the difference is $50 per corner on the front and almost $100 per corner on the rear.


cheers
Ed

[Ghost Rider]

^^^ I have a set of Conti's for my feet!!

19448

19449

[SlipperyVic]

If they are anything like the Continental's that came on our Sprinters the sole is going to wear out on those shoes in a hurry, and your going to hate using them the entire time you own them.

[Ghost Rider]

If they are anything like the Continental's that came on our Sprinters the sole is going to wear out on those shoes in a hurry, and your going to hate using them the entire time you own them.

I've had them for 2 years and only worn them once LOL

I have way too many fucking shoes, I'm like a chick, I don't even know why I keep buying them!!

[ZR]

^ Ahhhhhhhhh, that explains the always late bit.

[Ghost Rider]

^ Ahhhhhhhhh, that explains the always late bit.


LOL!!

[Hutch]

The Continental ExtremeContact Sport are almost as good as the Michelin 4 S (in other words still really good) for quite a bit less money in some of the larger sizes. When I look at your 255/40R19 & 285/35R19 staggered combo on the Ford Canada pricing, the difference is $50 per corner on the front and almost $100 per corner on the rear.


cheers
Ed

I really like Continental tires as well. Great performance tire for the money. I had them on my Saleen and really like them. I would buy them again.

[fast Ed]

Dan those probably would have been the previous generation ExtremeContact DW which were very good too ... I had them on the street wheels on my 07 GT. I'm leaning toward them for the 17 for whatever I put on it for the street / wet track day setup.

[Hutch]

Dan those probably would have been the previous generation ExtremeContact DW which were very good too ... I had them on the street wheels on my 07 GT. I'm leaning toward them for the 17 for whatever I put on it for the street / wet track day setup.

Yes that’s them. I bought them on your recommendation actually and was very happy with them.

[dubbs]

Sorry for the late reply

345/30r20s on 20x11.75 rims

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[mavrrrick]

Very happy and impressed with the Continentals. Thanks for everyone’s input.


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[Zippy]

Have you tracked them yet? :stickpoke:

[fast Ed]

Ordered a set of the Continental ExtremeContact Sport this week for my new to me car, 285/35R19 all around. And mine for sure will get tracked! LOL

[Hutch]

Ordered a set of the Continental ExtremeContact Sport this week for my new to me car, 285/35R19 all around. And mine for sure will get tracked! LOL

Did you end up getting wheels?

[mavrrrick]

Did you end up getting wheels?

No.... stayed with factory rims.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200327/15b61ea8b64d645f3623f35f19984da6.jpg


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[Hutch]

No.... stayed with factory rims.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200327/15b61ea8b64d645f3623f35f19984da6.jpg


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Time to upgrade those tiny rear brakes!

[N89]

Ordered a set of the Continental ExtremeContact Sport this week for my new to me car, 285/35R19 all around. And mine for sure will get tracked! LOL

Are you going to use the OEM PP1 wheels? Aren't they staggered?

[fast Ed]

They're too heavy and yes they are staggered sizes which is not as useful for a tracked car when you want to be able to rotate front to rear to maximize tire wear. Also have a set of black Fastco FC04 19x9.5" on order. Would prefer 10 or 10.5", but these are only 21 lbs. each and I get a great price on them as a selling dealer when it's for my own ride.

[Hutch]

They're too heavy and yes they are staggered sizes which is not as useful for a tracked car when you want to be able to rotate front to rear to maximize tire wear. Also have a set of black Fastco FC04 19x9.5" on order. Would prefer 10 or 10.5", but these are only 21 lbs. each and I get a great price on them as a selling dealer when it's for my own ride.

Those are nice wheels. Disappointing that they don’t offer more sizes

[FABMAN]

They're too heavy and yes they are staggered sizes which is not as useful for a tracked car when you want to be able to rotate front to rear to maximize tire wear. Also have a set of black Fastco FC04 19x9.5" on order. Would prefer 10 or 10.5", but these are only 21 lbs. each and I get a great price on them as a selling dealer when it's for my own ride.

So true, can’t believe Ford still puts those rims on those cars. Heavy as cement, and hard to clean as well. Always thought the pp1 package should have came with 285/35/19 on all 4 corners as standard.

Current PP1 tire setup is still undersized IMO and doesn’t capitalize on a rather competent factory performance setup. I can only assume they based tire selection to maximize fuel economy on these V8 cars.

The FC04 is a nice looking wheel, reminds me of the PP2 wheels which mine are replicas of. Would be nice if they offered them in a 19x10 setup.

[ZR]

+ gotta keep performance below other offerings costing a bunch more.