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FALL TRACK DAY
Thursday Sept 12
TMP Motorsports Park / Road Course (sorry no drag strip).
To reserve your spot, call DaSilva Racing.
Stephen06GT
08-11-2019, 03:22 PM
Woohoo!! In.
newbiestangowner
08-11-2019, 05:31 PM
I’m in,
I’ll deal with work( excuse) later
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Like yer style Mr.
Let's go n get you a new Track pack II just in time for it................. deal with the boss when you get home....................to collect your belongings.
newbiestangowner
08-11-2019, 06:46 PM
Like yer style Mr.
Let's go n get you a new Track pack II just in time for it................. deal with the boss when you get home....................to collect your belongings.
Now that’s an expensive track day- if I want fast I’ll just ride shot gun in some red cobra- easier on my wallet
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No one shows up in a cobra, dem Mustangs are polish only.
Good morning TMC gotta take it to the road course crew.
The guys are back from holidays next week, be sure to call n book your spot.
Phone: 905-837-7700
Great overview of the track.
We use passing zone between corner 12 and 1 plus between 1 and 2 for advanced and intermediate group. To help ease pressure on the rookie group, no passing permitted. So one might ask, I'm out there having a good time in the rookie group but several cars are faster than me or perhaps someone is holding you up, easy peasy, cycle off the track and head straight over to the starter, get you cycled back on with clear track. As per the norm, no stress to move up n into a more experienced group if needed.
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newbiestangowner
08-17-2019, 09:44 AM
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Copied here as well.
Thanks Chris.
RedSN
08-17-2019, 11:11 AM
...was starting to think only mods could attend. ;)
IN!
Code word for anyone to attend..............in.
Armen
08-17-2019, 11:18 AM
:D
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RedSN
08-17-2019, 11:20 AM
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In and bringing a little more juice than last year
FoxRod
08-17-2019, 02:56 PM
Your coupe looked and sounded great!...I think that was you on Derry coming from Financial Dr. ?
In and bringing a little more juice than last year
ON BOOST
08-17-2019, 06:51 PM
Wasn't looking like I'd make it but was able to move some stuff around. Excited to get back out there with everyone as I missed the spring track day
Zippy
08-17-2019, 07:27 PM
Will be passing all mustangs in the SS at track day. #Lt1power
ON BOOST
08-17-2019, 08:22 PM
Will be passing all mustangs in the SS at track day. #Lt1power
Not my mustang, LS power > LT1 power!
newbiestangowner
08-17-2019, 09:34 PM
I'll be in the SuperSlow group :stickpoke::cheers:
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Speedtospare
08-18-2019, 01:11 AM
I would love to be there. Out of money for this year. Twin turbo coyote swaps are expensive.
Yes it was, same words can be said of yours!
Your coupe looked and sounded great!...I think that was you on Derry coming from Financial Dr. ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mc3_CjuRqI
I'm calling DaSilva in the morning. Looking forward to a great day with the gang !!!
Quicksilver
08-19-2019, 01:33 PM
Does it have to be a mustang? I don't have one anymore.
mavrrrick
08-19-2019, 01:39 PM
I believe all are welcomed. ( correct me if Im wrong please) As long as you meet safety criteria.... safety always first!!!!
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Stephen06GT
08-19-2019, 01:41 PM
I believe all are welcomed. ( correct me if Im wrong please)
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You are correct. Only restriction, no open wheeled vehicles.
mavrrrick
08-19-2019, 01:43 PM
Had to add (edited)public safety message as well!!lol
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newbiestangowner
08-20-2019, 09:51 AM
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Date is approaching. Give the guys at Dasilva a call to reserve your spot and save some dough.
Not a mustang? No problem! Any make or model welcome! First time out? Don’t know anyone? No problem! It’s like cars and coffee with a track at your disposal!
Great bunch of guys, intimidation free, hell I didn’t even know where to go to exit the track and cycle off , just ask any questions.
Epic day and a chance to run your car without getting a ticket , and meet fellow car enthusiasts.
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RedSN
08-20-2019, 10:22 AM
Spring Track Day has been scheduled for Monday May 13th at Toronto Motorsports Park in Cayuga, Ontario. This will be a Road Course Only event, we are not renting the drag strip.
http://www.torontomustangclub.ca/forums/showthread.php?15629-Dasilva-Racing-Fall-Track-day-September-12th-2019-at-Toronto-Motorsports-Park!
Looks like somebody did a cut and paste in the Fall Track Day thread. Somebody should fix that :stickpoke:
newbiestangowner
08-20-2019, 10:47 AM
http://www.torontomustangclub.ca/forums/showthread.php?15629-Dasilva-Racing-Fall-Track-day-September-12th-2019-at-Toronto-Motorsports-Park!
Looks like somebody did a cut and paste in the Fall Track Day thread. Somebody should fix that :stickpoke:
Fixed
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RedSN
08-21-2019, 07:37 PM
Race membership paid up.
Track tires and brakes ...still on car.
Helmet ...still in car.
Let’s go!
newbiestangowner
08-21-2019, 07:57 PM
Race membership paid up.
Track tires and brakes ...still on car.
Helmet ...still in car.
Let’s go!
Good stuff!
Can I ride?? I didn’t get a chance last outing with the rain.
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98 Snake
08-21-2019, 10:26 PM
I will call and register tmrw, gotta fresh set of brakes to install before the track, killed the last of what I had at mosport DDT
RedSN
08-21-2019, 11:04 PM
Good stuff!
Can I ride??
Anytime!
Fall track day likely would not have been good for a ride-along, very white-knuckled. Was drifting almost every corner, and spun 3 or 4 times. Kinda fun, but not really, LOL.
newbiestangowner
08-24-2019, 02:37 AM
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Operators are ready to take your call!
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Hoping to get slo turd into Dr office.
If not that’s ok - she’s pretty much good to go.
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RedSN
09-03-2019, 09:29 AM
got to the office this morning, flipped the calendar to September .....holy ****!!! track day is next week!
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1BAD92LX
09-03-2019, 11:29 AM
Not much time to get your HCI on...:stickpoke:
RedSN
09-03-2019, 11:34 AM
I'll just put one of these in place of my license plate.
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Armen
09-04-2019, 06:12 PM
7/8... Super fun zone, followed by HOLY SH*T BRAKE! EFFING BRAAAAAAKE, zone.
Laffs
09-04-2019, 06:51 PM
I'll be there the day before ya'll strangely enough. Got a customer appreciation track day at this place. Is there any good food places or hotels in the area since I plan on staying the night?
Old Fart
09-04-2019, 08:32 PM
We stayed at the Travelodge in Simcoe when we attended the Nitro Nationals. Not a bad place for a basic room.
newbiestangowner
09-04-2019, 08:48 PM
We stayed at the Travelodge in Simcoe when we attended the Nitro Nationals. Not a bad place for a basic room.
Oh so u coming and running your 04?? On September 12.
You have extra set of tires plus proper vroom vroom sound :)
U can join me in the s.s group.
Super Slow
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Old Fart
09-04-2019, 08:52 PM
I'd love to but can't. Someday I will be there!
RedSN
09-04-2019, 09:49 PM
7/8... Super fun zone, followed by HOLY SH*T BRAKE! EFFING BRAAAAAAKE, zone.
My favourite part of the track is 2-3-4-5.
Right....MORE right! Left...SNAP right.
Passing zones for advanced and intermediate groups
Between corner 13 to 1
Between corner 1 to 2
Rookie group
No passing anywhere on the track however, if you find your holding up other cars or perhaps being held up, cycle off the track and come straight to the starter, he'll cycle you back on the track. Also, find yourself super comfortable in the rookie group and want to stretch your legs a lil harder, no stress moving up a group.
Yes it's just that easy, there is a pace out there for everyone.
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You called to register yet??
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RedSN
09-06-2019, 08:48 AM
I called in sick today. Said I wouldn't be in next Thursday.
newbiestangowner
09-06-2019, 10:42 AM
I’m having hard time getting next Thursday, if by any chance someone asks if I was there( out of the blue) - you never saw me.
I may keep my helmet on all day.
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Dr Toronto riding shotgun a few years back.
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RedSN
09-09-2019, 09:18 AM
come on nice weather!
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Armen
09-09-2019, 09:44 AM
Hopefully the forecast improves by Thursday.
RedSN
09-09-2019, 10:08 AM
^^^I have a Sharpie ready in case the weather map needs adjusting ;)
Zippy
09-09-2019, 09:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2qsq6YMqVE
Intmdtr
09-10-2019, 08:26 AM
Anybody heading down from up my way? Thinking of coming down as a spectator....may bring my helmet....lol
fast Ed
09-10-2019, 10:33 AM
No fall track day for me, too much going on at work and we will have one of the guys away after getting some eyeball work. Everybody who does make it out, enjoy and be safe!
RAT ATK
09-10-2019, 10:34 AM
Will miss you Ed
newbiestangowner
09-10-2019, 02:34 PM
Being “Strong armed”at work- but I’ll be there - it’s gone beyond just a track day now , don’t mess with the Newbs lol!
Oh just in case any of you know of employment opportunities let me know.
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Laffs
09-10-2019, 05:58 PM
Is spectating a thing the day of? I'm gonna be in the area that time, but in the work truck.
Zippy
09-10-2019, 06:20 PM
Is spectating a thing the day of? I'm gonna be in the area that time, but in the work truck.
Sounds like a perfect lapping day ride.
LET'S GO TRACK DAY, LET'S GO!!!!
newbiestangowner
09-11-2019, 07:58 AM
Tomorrow!!!!!!!!
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Meanwhile, a ride in my car looks more like this.
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newbiestangowner
09-11-2019, 08:16 AM
Meanwhile, a ride in my car looks more like this.
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Ya right lol
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RedSN
09-11-2019, 08:19 AM
I don't recall scones and tea while riding with ZR.
...there was whine.
Nothing but vicious rumors. ;)
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Quicksilver
09-11-2019, 08:59 AM
IF it rains, does everyone go anyway?
Anyone leaving from Newmarket or Aurora? I would like to bring my tent, but it's gonna be had to even fit my helmet into the Jag if my wife comes. So I'm wondeing if anyone else could carry my tent for me
newbiestangowner
09-11-2019, 09:41 AM
Road Course runs rain or shine so please make sure you have proper tires for this event. Slicks will not be allowed to run in the rain.
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Scrape
09-11-2019, 09:47 AM
You bought a Trump Sharpie LOL? I hear they are sold out.:facepalm:
^^^I have a Sharpie ready in case the weather map needs adjusting ;)
Looking more n more like passing shower or two and all will be good.
Always windy there so even with a passing shower, track dries fast.
RedSN
09-11-2019, 11:17 AM
...but it's gonna be had to even fit my helmet into the Jag if my wife comes.
wear the helmet, ditch the wife.
<---problem solver.
1BAD92LX
09-11-2019, 12:13 PM
Engineers.... they so smart.
newbiestangowner
09-11-2019, 04:00 PM
Ok
I’m locked and loaded for tomorrow!
Just made the call to register.
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It's finally here............see ya'll there.
Yes you can pay at the gate
RedSN
09-12-2019, 07:39 AM
Heading out. See y’all there.
Stephen06GT
09-26-2019, 12:32 PM
It’s only been two weeks, but to me the fall track day seems like it was two months ago.
newbiestangowner
09-26-2019, 12:35 PM
It’s only been two weeks, but to me the fall track day seems like it was two months ago.
I know, I’m thinking of attending one of those open dusk sessions or open weekend just to get a fix if they still have, but from what I hear it starts off ok then gets crazy
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1BAD92LX
09-26-2019, 04:43 PM
I used to attend the evenings after work. I don't remember it being crazy but its been a bunch of years. Just keep your distance from people.
I still remember a Porsche dive bombing me into a corner. I followed him off the track and let him know how I felt. Turns out it was one of the track owners friends
The Steeda day I went to was really just an open track session with a couple mustangs there, they had a car show going on in the parking lot and some stangs going down the strip. Few mustangs participated in the road course
It went very smooth, no issues, good drivers of all kinds of makes/ models. Pfaff racing had their Mclaren out for a couple hours ripping around. A beautiful LS swapped RX-7, bunch of japanese and German cars.
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I don't think I was doing it right
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fast Ed
09-27-2019, 12:10 PM
I used to attend the evenings after work. I don't remember it being crazy but its been a bunch of years. Just keep your distance from people.
I still remember a Porsche dive bombing me into a corner. I followed him off the track and let him know how I felt. Turns out it was one of the track owners friends
I had a 911 driver do that to me many years ago in a non-passing zone at TMP when I was there on an evening with some guys from the SHO club ... this was when I had a rusty POS 95 Taurus SHO with good tires, suspension, and brakes. I'd paid $900 for the car, I should have just turned in on him! LOL
Ghost Rider
09-27-2019, 12:22 PM
I don't think I was doing it right
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Looks like a normal day at the track tire to me...
Ghost Rider
09-27-2019, 12:23 PM
I had a 911 driver do that to me many years ago in a non-passing zone at TMP when I was there on an evening with some guys from the SHO club ... this was when I had a rusty POS 95 Taurus SHO with good tires, suspension, and brakes. I'd paid $900 for the car, I should have just turned in on him! LOL
LOL!
1BAD92LX
10-04-2019, 09:26 AM
Is this just the curb kicking up the front wheel? Or maybe a stiffer rear sway bar is needed? Either way, makes great pictures.
fast Ed
10-04-2019, 10:15 AM
Maybe a bit of both. Common on Fox and SN95 because of how much roll stiffness you have in the front vs. the rear typically. My 87 used to lift the front left through corner 9 at Mosport with sticky (for their time) tires.
1BAD92LX
10-04-2019, 10:25 AM
Is there a stock rear sway bar that's stiffer? SN95 cobra? Or leave it cause it looks cool
fast Ed
10-04-2019, 11:26 AM
The issue some people find with putting a bigger rear bar on a Fox with the factory style mounting to the lower arms, is that it unloads the inside wheel and you lose acceleration grip out of the corners. Before you spend money on different bars, put a really good diff in the car. Back in the day an Auburn diff took at least a second a lap off my time at Shannonville on my 87, that was all we could get for an 8.8" back then. These days I'd suggest a Torsen T2R, expensive but works great. A good diff will do a lot more for you then changing the bars especially with your HP upgrade, obviously more expensive and more work though.
Armen
10-04-2019, 11:43 AM
Just so everyone knows, these photos are iPhone burst shots of the cars going over the curbing. I just selected the ones that showed the most wheel-up because yes, it looks cool and made for great action shots.
Currently running T2R in mine.
Great shots Chris, thank you.
Today’s Ask Torsen question comes to us by email from James Stapleton. He asks:
(I) Have seen where you’ve stated that a T-2 might be better suited for open tracking than the T-2R. I do both open track and autocross currently on Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires, and maybe changing to a 200 treadwear type tire in the near future. Thoughts?
Well James, that’s a great question – and one we’ve been asked a lot over the years. However, it is highly dependent on a number of things: chassis set up, track conditions and degree of technicality, even driver preference, so there is no singular hard and fast answer. The basic essence of the answer, though, is that it’s a matter of what trade-off is best for the situation in question.
As a limited slip differential becomes more aggressive – with a greater degree of lockup (or torque bias ratio) – it has greater resistance to differentiation. This has two influences on the car in the context of what we’re talking about here. First, it affords better resistance to wheel spin, which of course means that the driver can apply more throttle and accelerate faster. Second, it has greater resistance to steer input, at least during turn-in and initial corner exit, because by resisting differentiation, it is also resisting the car’s need to rotate and change direction.
This initial understeer is somewhat mitigated, at corner exit, by resisting inside wheelspin. In so doing, more torque is allowed to go to the outside tire once the inside tire reaches its traction limit than would otherwise be the case. That, in turn, has the effect of generating an understeer-canceling yaw moment on the chassis, serving to actually drive out of the corner with greater authority. But you have to overcome initial understeer to get to that point. This effect is described in more detail elsewhere on this blog.
To boil that all down to the nuts and bolts of the matter, higher TBR can make the car “push” some in a corner, but allows a great deal of corner-exit traction. Lower TBR, on the other hand, can be more neutral-feeling, but potentially lack sufficient traction to prevent inside spin. So, as with any aspect of chassis set-up, it’s a trade-off. Cars with lower torque output (such as a Miata or BRZ) can be comfortable with a lower TBR because they favor nimble response and don’t have the torque to overwhelm the tires. Big-bore cars with big torque output may need the higher TBR of a T-2R model.
However, as noted above, venue plays into it as well. A track that is fast and flowing will probably favor the lower TBR of the standard Type-2. With less dynamic weight transfer in a corner, you don’t need to compromise handling balance based on corner-exit traction. The lower dynamic weight transfer means the inside tire doesn’t become unloaded and loose traction as readily. But a smaller, more technical course – especially in autocross – may force you into a more aggressive differential due to tight corners and high weight transfer. There is a much greater potential to lift an inside tire off the pavement. Frankly, the T-2R owes its existence to autocross. It was due to the complaints of wheelspin and Type-2 not being aggressive enough in that environment that we created the T-2R product line. But again, it comes down to what compromise makes most sense to you.
In your specific case, because you participate in both open track events and autocross, I would probably prefer using the T-2R. It is easier to make some chassis tweaks to compensate for a little extra initial understeer than it is to cope with insufficient traction at corner exit. At least, that would be the approach I would take. Best of luck!
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