Alignment problems on S55o Mustangs

[Quicksilver]

On my 2015 GT convertible, around 45000 km I ran into the problem of the front tires (both of them) wearing out on the inside, to the point the cord was showing. I replaced the tires and then went to a specialist alignment shop, which was able to sort of fix the problem. The new tires I put on wore a little better, but you could see it was still happening. I traded the car at 80,000 km for my present 2017 GT convertible.

Last summer I replaced the factory 18" wheels and tires, and then put aftermarket front tires on the '17(mounted on 19x9 wheels) at about 25000 km. IT now has 45,000 km. I was careful to make sure the overall diameter was the same. This weekend I took the car out of storage and as I was checking tire pressures I saw that the same thing is happening, again. I'm gonna take it in and get it re-aligned asap.
To my knowledge neither car ever hit a curb or had any sort of altercation which might affect the alignment.

This is now 2 cars in a row with the same problem.
Annyone else have a similar concern with their '15 and up? Any solutions?

[ZR]

Would need to see before / after alignment specs to give an opinion.
Do however have to keep in mind, aggressive handling car requires aggressive set up and as such, will not see huge miles outta tires. I accept that fact with my own car and happily replace tires as needed.

[Ponyryd]

As stated above it’s a performance-oriented car and they usually have more aggressive alignment setting to get better handling. I see it often and it’s not just on Mustangs.......

I’ll never forget something a Miata guy once told me when he wanted me to align his car with max negative camber, he said “I can replace tires, but I can’t replace my life” meaning for the way he drove, we needed an aggressive alignment to keep the car on the road, lol.

[ZR]

With my own car, took a couple trips to Scotts to find a balance between killer on the track and acceptable street manners, didn't care an ounce about tire wear. While it's is not overly sensitive to aggressive specs out front, under power aggressive on rear camber and toe meant scare the life outta you unpredictability on the street.

[DinoZ]

Interesting, i dig all topics suspension.

I’ll be at Scott’s, Can Alignment next Saturday to set my car up for agressive street.

For the amount of kms I do on the mustang in a year I’d rather sacrifice tires in order to get great handling.

[ZR]

Came down to same decision for me.

[Quicksilver]

Also no argument about cost of tires. IT seems I have developed a pattern of keeping my cars for only two years, so tire wear isn't a real problem. Just don't like to throw money out.
Who is Scott? A specialist alignment shop? Where might they be?

[Parkway Ford Lincoln SVT]

Scott Murfin at Can-Alignment in Millgrove

http://www.canalignment.com/

[55 HD]

[QUOTE=Quicksilver; IT seems I have developed a pattern of keeping my cars for only two years, so tire wear isn't a real problem. Just don't like to throw money out.

Sounds to me me like a real good investment. lol The exact same reason I don't buy a new car every 2 years.

[Quicksilver]

[QUOTE=Quicksilver; IT seems I have developed a pattern of keeping my cars for only two years, so tire wear isn't a real problem. Just don't like to throw money out.

Sounds to me me like a real good investment. lol The exact same reason I don't buy a new car every 2 years.

I do around 35-40,000 km a year, so I can rationalize new cars more often.

[Quicksilver]

Anyone know a good alignment shop a little closer to Newmarket than Scott's?

[ZR]

For what your after, no.
As many have said, well worth the effort to see him.

[RedSN]

I do around 35-40,000 km a year, so I can rationalize new cars more often.

Anyone know a good alignment shop a little closer to Newmarket than Scott's?
It’s 120 km. Doesn’t seem like that much compared to 40,000 km a year.

[Screw]

Wasn’t there a place in scarborough Bobs ?

[RedSN]

Bob has retired. But Auto One still does alignments. I got mine done there the last time my alignment went out.

[Ponyryd]

Go to a local tire or suspension shop and ask them who does their alignments, they likely have a shop they deal with regularly that can get you what you want out of a set of tires.

[Quicksilver]

Thanks guys. Found a shop in Newmarket that seems to have a good rep.

[Screw]

Pass it along if you don’t mind I need mine done too

[Ponyryd]

Thanks guys. Found a shop in Newmarket that seems to have a good rep.

I’d be interested to see the before and after numbers, they should provide it without a request, but some don’t so ask when you drop it off.

[Monera3v]

Apparently, Apex in saugga does pretty good work..

http://www.apexmotoring.com/alignment.php

[ZR]

^ Had forgotten about them, excellent reviews from several club members.

[DinoZ]

So, good handling = a) Positive Caster, B) Negative camber, C) Toe out.

I say this as I’m preparing to get an alignment this month with Scott, and want to use all available adjustments that all aftermarket parts installed will handle.

P.S. Great day for a run today, top down , heater on, windows up, sun in your face, must be what heaven is like.

[Ponyryd]

If that was a question, then the answer is B

Positive caster will provide better stability and tracking at high speeds, but more steering effort at low speeds.
Negative camber will provide better cornering but will increase inside tire wear
Toe out can vary the handling slightly depending on other factors, but generally you want some toe-in on rwd cars, and some toe-out of fwd cars.

[DinoZ]

Thanks for response Pony, so I’m good with 2 of 3 as I’m looking for increased steering effort and should be asking for toe in.

I always thought toe out gave better cornering stability, good to know

And I have to say, I’m truly partial to the 5th generation which is why I bought one , it feels like a not so new but new enough but just looks like a classic already.

[DinoZ]

I visited Scott at Can Alignment yesterday, great fellow. Gets to the job of set up quickly. Because of inclement weather it was difficult to feel the effects but regardless felt good after he set up the car and I’m sure I’ll be pleased.

Original settings were way off to my what I wanted. All I said to Scott was what am I looking for,he simply said you want to have fun on the road with the components I had installed without too much tire wear.

I’m sure I’ll be pleased.

Cost was no more than a regular alignment on a family sedan.

Thanks ZR for recommending him.

[ZR]

He really does know his stuff, can't wait for your feedback once the roads get better.

[DinoZ]

Ok, didn’t gun the runs especially on the on /off ramps as tires are not the best for these temps , but I honestly have one word for Scott’s alignment tuning, woa!

I’ve owned the car for 2 years and focused on bolt on parts on the underside with the knowledge from this superb information board and it’s members and am totally content. I beleive the latest BMR FCA replacements really helped.

I now find the steering more weighted and eager to run flat when tossing into corners.

I know I can go nuts and spend more but for now and on the street this is one happy mustang owner.

[ZR]

Echo your words, thought my set up was good until he showed me what it was really capable of.

[DinoZ]

Echo your words, thought my set up was good until he showed me what it was really capable of.

Did I mention how much I like my car, looking forward to a future meet up, maybe I’ll cave and have “1” wing one night with the crew