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Scrape
09-28-2018, 08:01 AM
I love my American Muscle cars. Sometimes I like the old school rides but part of me loves the tech and all out performance of the new stuff. I have a blast with my buddy doing this on our weekly coffee nights so gun to your head if you had to pick between these two cars which one would you take? No substitutions.
1970 Chevelle SS 454
https://www.americangrit.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Feature-15.jpg
OR
2017 Dodge Challenger Demon
http://dmi3w0goirzgw.cloudfront.net/gallery-images/1600/406000/600/406638.jpg
Ok so no secret I'm a GM muscle car guy at heart but in the same breath I like to drive and enjoy my car. With that said, Chevelle makes me drool but Demon would be the one occupying my driveway. I'm just not a garage queen car owner, respect many here are and thats the part of the hobby they enjoy, just ain't for me.
Add in the option Chevelle is a full on corner carving resto mod..............fawk yes.
mavrrrick
09-28-2018, 08:06 AM
I'd have to go Chevelle...love the old cars!!! Had a 72 Cutlass vert in my younger years. Sorry i sold it!!
^ Sometimes the memory is better than the car.
mavrrrick
09-28-2018, 08:07 AM
Sometimes?
Love the fact I get to drive so many cool older rides.
Scrape
09-28-2018, 08:13 AM
Love these this or that cars because both have their merits. For me personally that Demon does it for me. That would be the car sitting in my driveway.
hammerhead
09-28-2018, 08:20 AM
I love those old cars but I could never own a collector - I just won't be able to not beat the shit out of it! if I could afford the new one I would choose it...but their are some things about the new ones that turn me off - #1 paint jobs on a 70,000$ car should be mint new cars today have the worst paint jobs I've seen and this needs to be addressed. At one time you couldn't beat the finish on a new car. now they suck nd that would drive me crazy everytime I looked at it from an angle...
Armen
09-28-2018, 08:27 AM
If you want to enjoy the car whenever you want, the Demon is definitely the way to go.
If you’d be ok with a fair weather weekender cruising car that will require extra care, then the Chevelle.
I know what I’d choose.
Scrape
09-28-2018, 09:03 AM
Don't I know it. :facepalm: That is part of the reason for getting rid of mine.
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I love those old cars but I could never own a collector - I just won't be able to not beat the shit out of it! if I could afford the new one I would choose it...but their are some things about the new ones that turn me off - #1 paint jobs on a 70,000$ car should be mint new cars today have the worst paint jobs I've seen and this needs to be addressed. At one time you couldn't beat the finish on a new car. now they suck nd that would drive me crazy everytime I looked at it from an angle...
hammerhead
09-28-2018, 09:21 AM
Don't I know it. :facepalm: That is part of the reason for getting rid of mine.
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did you sell it...?
Blackmare
09-28-2018, 09:31 AM
It would be the Demon for me. Love the old Chevelle's, but couldn't pass up on the drive ability and reliability of the Demon.
newbiestangowner
09-28-2018, 09:34 AM
Demon hands down, solve all end all any “ power problems” of my slow turd [emoji23]
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Scrape
09-28-2018, 10:37 AM
Sold it over a year ago. Ordered it in and found that paint issue and inquired about it. Basically the entire car would almost need painting. That would absolutely have destroy my sanity. I do miss it sometimes but onto bigger and better things I must say. Have to move forward and look forward to what the future has in store for me.
did you sell it...?
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hammerhead
09-28-2018, 10:42 AM
Sold it over a year ago. Ordered it in and found that paint issue and inquired about it. Basically the entire car would almost need painting. That would absolutely have destroy my sanity.
me too - it's the first impression it has to right and to have to repaint a new car it's just unthinkable - it's surprising how so may people don't really notice it that kind of stuff
RedSN
09-28-2018, 11:15 AM
'70 Chevelle, or a '17 Demon?
Hands down easy choice ....the Demon for me.
'67 Chevelle resto-mod .....I'll take this one please.
https://cdn1.mecum.com/auctions/sc0513/sc0513-153347/images/sc0513-153347_1@2x.jpg?1468646707000
Scrape
09-28-2018, 11:44 AM
Restomod is a whole new level. That is not even in the same price range.
'70 Chevelle, or a '17 Demon?
Hands down easy choice ....the Demon for me.
'67 Chevelle resto-mod .....I'll take this one please.
https://cdn1.mecum.com/auctions/sc0513/sc0513-153347/images/sc0513-153347_1@2x.jpg?1468646707000
hammerhead
09-28-2018, 11:51 AM
i'd beat the snot out of that too....
Laffs
09-28-2018, 12:00 PM
1970 Chevelle SS LS6, Black with white stripes. 4:11 Positrac outback, 750 double pumper, Edelbrock intake, bored over 30, 11 to 1 pop-up pistons, turbo-jet 390 horsepower. We're talkin' some fuckin' muscle.
Cruise by all the high schools with that beauty.
mavrrrick
09-28-2018, 12:10 PM
Guess only the old f***s what the Chevelle huh?
Laffs
09-28-2018, 12:34 PM
Guess only the old f***s what the Chevelle huh?
I'm 31 and say gimme dat Chevelle.
Screw
09-28-2018, 12:50 PM
1970 Chevelle SS LS6, Black with white stripes. 4:11 Positrac outback, 750 double pumper, Edelbrock intake, bored over 30, 11 to 1 pop-up pistons, turbo-jet 390 horsepower. We're talkin' some fuckin' muscle.
Cruise by all the high schools with that beauty.
Hey now today’s kids won’t notice a Chevelle & ur 31 so a little old for high school cruises:sarcasm:
Laffs
09-28-2018, 12:53 PM
Hey now today’s kids won’t notice a Chevelle & ur 31 so a little old for high school cruises:sarcasm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnlv1wd13fY
Blackmare
09-28-2018, 12:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnlv1wd13fY
Beat me to it! Lol.
Screw
09-28-2018, 01:06 PM
Dawgs I tell ya :D
NickD
09-28-2018, 01:42 PM
That's such a hard decision. My instinct was Chevelle [emoji817] as it's one of my favorites.
The demon is just so much more practical and fast.
I don't think I can decide
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Ponyryd
09-28-2018, 03:35 PM
Demon.
I love the Chevrolet but as others noted you just can’t beat the Demon for driving pleasure, and if I had one I’d drive it every day it wasn’t raining or salt in the roads. Now, were I an older guy who wanted to sit at a car show it would be the Chevelle for sure.
Darkhorse
09-28-2018, 05:37 PM
You didn't say if the Chevelle could have an LSx with Twin Turbos?
If the Chevelle was a resto mod with modern power, I would take that, along with collector insurance.
The Demon is a lot of coin but likely worth it. I would still end up modding it go faster.
Either one would not be a daily driver......so the Demon is great, but I think a Hellcat with the right mods is plenty enough.
Scrape
09-28-2018, 11:11 PM
Nope all stock. Restomod is on a whole new level. Both cars would be around the $110-120,000 range.
You didn't say if the Chevelle could have an LSx with Twin Turbos?
If the Chevelle was a resto mod with modern power, I would take that, along with collector insurance.
The Demon is a lot of coin but likely worth it. I would still end up modding it go faster.
Either one would not be a daily driver......so the Demon is great, but I think a Hellcat with the right mods is plenty enough.
1986stangfan
09-29-2018, 07:11 AM
I would choose the demon between those two cars
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Uncle Buck
09-29-2018, 08:22 AM
I don't like this game. It's got me all flustered. I want both as part of a large collection.
Scrape
09-29-2018, 08:33 AM
Hey Al! My buddy and I do this every week lol. We come up with some interesting scenarios.
I don't like this game. It's got me all flustered. I want both as part of a large collection.
Uncle Buck
09-29-2018, 08:35 AM
Make it easy for me and put a 69 Boss 9 in the game.
Darkhorse
09-30-2018, 09:44 PM
Nope all stock. Restomod is on a whole new level. Both cars would be around the $110-120,000 range.
Try again, the Demon is like 160-180K range.
WidowrRacing
09-30-2018, 11:16 PM
Demon would be pick!
Scrape
10-01-2018, 12:46 PM
Touche
Try again, the Demon is like 160-180K range.
onDjuice
01-06-2019, 08:25 PM
I'll take my 1970 fake yenko nova anyday. I go to the beer store to return bottles there for hour shooting the sh@t about cars.. Love it
CON VERT
01-07-2019, 02:25 PM
Easy, old car looks, new car mechanical's !
Scrape
01-07-2019, 02:46 PM
Well if you put it this way then this is my favorite right here.
http://www.diecastxmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/04-ring-brothers-recoil-copy.jpg
Easy, old car looks, new car mechanical's !
Scrape
01-07-2019, 02:48 PM
https://ringbrothers.com/media/gallery/galleryimages//0/3/03-ring-brothers-recoil.jpg
https://cdn.luxedb.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Breathtaking-1966-Chevrolet-Chevelle-By-Ringbrothers-8.jpg
CON VERT
01-07-2019, 04:17 PM
Very Nice, but I would want stock looking OLD ! :oldman:
Hellcat all the way. Look of old with todays comforts and tech. Not to mention no smell after you go for a drive.
cudaboy
01-07-2019, 08:17 PM
I like red........still a Mopar nut at heart.
Scrape
01-07-2019, 08:36 PM
I would rock this.
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hammerhead
01-07-2019, 10:45 PM
I would rock this.
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there's a hell cat charger just sitting in the yard I work in - guy paid 90g's for it never drives, it some days it looks like a barn find with all the dirt on it
True Blue
01-08-2019, 10:06 AM
I'd gladly take this. 71 Cuda with a 392 Hemi crate engine 485hp mated to a T56 tranny.
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Scrape
01-14-2019, 10:20 PM
And that Red Eye is still quicker than that new GT500 in stock form.
https://youtu.be/LBuwR3GafxM
Scrape
03-14-2019, 08:08 AM
Here we go again but will be doing it with a twist. A new which would you pick and why?
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This 2019 Mercedes AMG S63 Coupe
https://www.mercedes-benz.ca/content/dam/mb-nafta/ca/myco/my19/s/coupe/class-page/amg/MBCAN-2019-S-AMG-COUPE-CLASS-HERO-CH1-DR.jpg
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The Classic Ford Mustang VIN 00002! (https://mustangfanclub.com/barrett-jackson-scottsdale-2019/) Recently sold for almost $200,000
https://1v9ss7fd0hc43a93323mkei1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/223632_Front_3-4_Web.png
RedSN
03-14-2019, 08:39 AM
The AMG is a beast! I'd probably be scared to drive it.
The Mustang is a pristine museum piece. I'd probably be scared to drive it.
So my vote is for the AMG.
Blackmare
03-14-2019, 08:46 AM
From an investment/collection perspective - Mustang.
Pure driving fun - AMG.
Laffs
03-14-2019, 03:45 PM
Kinda biased here, but uh that S63 is all that and a bag of chips. Rather have that car I can drive, enjoy and use every day vs. a show piece all I can do is look at.
Also, OMFGWTFBBQ those S63 Seats.
Scrape
03-15-2019, 12:20 AM
This was inspired by you sir Laffs. I was hoping you would chime in ;)
True Blue
03-15-2019, 06:35 AM
Roasting those 185's on that Mustang would be a good laugh. :)
Laffs
03-15-2019, 09:34 AM
This was inspired by you sir Laffs. I was hoping you would chime in ;)
Thanks man. To add another variable to the equation I'd add his previous car, CLS 63 AMG S
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b68/Laffs99GT/cls2_zpsghzxzexo.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b68/Laffs99GT/cls7_zpsukhl3cms.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b68/Laffs99GT/Mobile%20Uploads/utf-8BSU1BRzE4MTAuanBn_zps20499359.jpg
Thing felt like more of a rocketship. On paper shouldn't be the case but I guess the 500lbs difference makes it feel like a faster car. Luxury and feature wise the S coupe crushes it though.
Scrape
03-15-2019, 12:28 PM
How about throwing in one of these in the mix?
https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1838433&stc=1&d=1528375770
https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1838434&stc=1&d=1528375770
Blackmare
03-15-2019, 12:35 PM
Wow, now we're talking.
Scrape
03-15-2019, 12:45 PM
This piece of art is not for the faint of heart. GOALS I TELL YA!
https://youtu.be/VSj9lQKH9wQ
Blackmare
03-15-2019, 12:46 PM
Epic
Laffs
03-15-2019, 03:00 PM
Singers aren't even comparable to anything. That's like her would you rather spend a night with Kate Upton and a bottle of chocolate saurce, or a weekend with a canteloupe and barely functioning microwave.
I've seen the Monaco Commission and the London Commission in person and both car makes the nicest OE luxury car look like a fucking Lada. The obsessive detail is eye popping. For the 750k -1.5mil sticker you're paying they do their best to give you the moneys worth. Mountain top cars. Up there with the McLaren F1 road car, 288 GTO, and XJ220 as the best unobtainable.
To wheel this little game of "would you rather" back inside this stratosphere. I'm currently vacillating between these two pieces of classic american iron. The criteria is which one would you rather do some fuckin sick burnouts in front of the high school with and tear up town on a Friday night.
1967 Chevelle SS
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qtPt68Jf4bM/hqdefault.jpg
OR
1977 Trans Am
https://ccmarketplace.azureedge.net/cc-temp/listing/118/8431/15332231-1977-pontiac-firebird-trans-am-thumb.jpg
Blackmare
03-15-2019, 03:04 PM
'67 Chevelle SS for me all day long and twice on Sundays.
Blackmare
03-15-2019, 03:09 PM
Although a '70 is my preferred body style
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Laffs
03-15-2019, 03:24 PM
Love me a 70 SS with a big block. But prices on those still a little high for what ya get. You can get a nice 67 for 30-40's
Blackmare
03-15-2019, 03:55 PM
Very true. '67 is a better bang for the buck.
Scrape
03-15-2019, 06:34 PM
Chevelle SS gets my vote. As far as a Singer Porsche it is just beautiful to look at. I know it is unattainable for most of us but its nice to dream.
True Blue
03-15-2019, 08:10 PM
Which one of these bad boys would you take?
70 Chevelle SS
http://cdn6.3dtuning.com/info/Chevrolet%20Chevelle%20SS-454%201970%20Coupe/factory/5.jpg
69 GTO Judge
https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmdkhMGQmaDm8TJneEh2Lw9QZ7UdPPEKjUWPvq8xFqA2Nh/1969___pontiac_gto_the_judge_by_4wheelssociety-d8xq8wj.jpg
Scrape
03-15-2019, 08:32 PM
Chevelle in my case.
Mustang4
03-15-2019, 11:08 PM
GTO
Blackmare
03-16-2019, 08:18 AM
Chevelle here
Das 5.0
03-16-2019, 08:22 AM
Had a 69 Chevelle That I bought in California many a years ago so partial to them. Should have kept it ....
1quikgt
03-17-2019, 10:07 AM
Chevelle for me.
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