Cargo Trailer Crackdown

[SVOMACH1]

Has anyone been following this? All trailers with a GVR of over 2800kg need a yearly inspection ( yellow sticker ) along with the tow vehicle even if not commercial. You also have to go to Service Ontario and pay extra for a sticker to up the GVR of your vehicle. People in the Sault are getting hammered. Thoughts??

https://www.firstplacetrailer.ca/yellow-sticker-required-motor-vehicles-trailers-ontario/

[Scrape]

Sounds like it is a specific requirement.



the total gross weight, registered gross weight (RGW) or manufacturer’s gross vehicle weight rating (MGVWR) of the vehicle exceeds 4,500 kg or 9,920 lbs.

or


the combined weight of the vehicle and towed trailer or converter dolly exceeds 4,500 kg or 9,920 lbs.

[SVOMACH1]

So both my car haulers need yearly inspections. Fuck!

[OldSchool]

It has been like this for many years

[StAnger]

Do you suppose this is for safety or revenue? I imagine the first crack at enforcement will show additional enforcement money will be needed.

Does anyone recall a rash of accidents as a result of trailer issues?

It's the Liberal government. Of course it's for revenue.

[5.4MarkVIII]

This include travel trailers?

[Darkhorse]

Agreed, this is not new.

2800KG is 6100lbs trailer and load. Even a car at 4000 and 2000 lbs trailer is under the exemption.

WTF are you hauling? lol.

[SVOMACH1]

Travel trailers are exempt. Any enclosed or flatbed trailer rated at over 2800 kg must be inspected yearly along with the tow vehicle. My trailers are rated at 3175 kg as are most car haulers. New law came into affect end of 2016. Just starting to enforce it now.

[Darkhorse]

Travel trailers are exempt. Any enclosed or flatbed trailer rated at over 2800 kg must be inspected yearly along with the tow vehicle. My trailers are rated at 3175 kg as are most car haulers. New law came into affect end of 2016. Just starting to enforce it now.

A single car hauler open bed would not be over that with basic 3500lbs axles.

Agreed, 7000lbs axles or enclosed are over and both need a sticker.

[Laffs]

Not hard to exceed 6000lbs. Newer late model car is easily over 4k and a my last 2 enclosed trailers each tipped scales near 2500.

But yes, these rules aren't new, stupid but not new.

[dbovine]

Also if you towed with something like an expedition instead of an f150, the expedition would not need the sticker because its a passenger vehicle (yes I know trucks are as well)

[Laffs]

Also if you towed with something like an expedition instead of an f150, the expedition would not need the sticker because its a passenger vehicle (yes I know trucks are as well)

Depends how it was plated, if it's got black plates it needs to abide by all the same rules, if its blue plates (that aren't that way because personalized) and titled as passenger then it's exempt. Believe the trailer is still stuck with the same regulations though.

[IanGTCS]

And if the weight of your towed vehicle is over 4600kg you'll need your A. Not sure if that is actual weight or rating.

The AR test is actually not that bad, passed it first try and I hadn't done a driving test since 1997 when I got my G2 (moved to Alberta for a work term, used the system to avoid the test).

[RedSN]

You guys are making it sound like it’s a “bad” thing to have 5 TON + vehicles tightly regulated, licenced, and inspected.

Think of the average driver driving a 3,000lb vehicle. Now think of that same driver but with 10,000 lbs.

[IanGTCS]

^ My workplace has a bulk landscape supply yard as part of its business. I've seen some "interesting" trailers. Turned a few away for sure.

Only seen one tent trailer with the tent removed to make a utility trailer though, but we do have one regular with a dodge towing a dodge.

[Laffs]

You guys are making it sound like it’s a “bad” thing to have 5 TON + vehicles tightly regulated, licenced, and inspected.

Think of the average driver driving a 3,000lb vehicle. Now think of that same driver but with 10,000 lbs.

They allow that already if it's an RV. Which is my problem. Most people towing for business or towing car/toy haulers have much more experience and skill with towing than the 60 year old retiree who hooks up his 38ft 15000lbs 5th wheel once a year. So why is it that is fine?

[SVOMACH1]

So to be legal, I have to certify both trailers yearly at $199.95 each plus certify my truck at $199.95. I also have to pay extra for my sticker and upgrade my license?? Stupid.

[5.4MarkVIII]

Yes because it’s about safety not a tax grab.

[CON VERT]

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[Laffs]

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It's not the size of the dog in the fight its the size of the fight in the dog.

[ZR]

I'm hoping thats a photo shopped joke.

[RedSN]

Looks like a wheelie bar if you remove the trailer.

[ZR]

What it should be towing.

http://www.cubefx.com/smart/trailer_03.jpg

[ZR]

I'm reading this thread thinking WTF Ont govt, licensed drivers are skilled / smart enough to tow a car trailer or similar without your interference but then I pass two car trailers yesterday. One, hooked to an mid size SUV with a full size 70s vehicle loaded on the trailer backwards. Second behind a standard cab 1/2 ton pickup with a similar size pickup also loaded on the trailer backwards. First tow vehicle had no business with a car trailer on the back let alone with a full size car on backwards. You sir are a complete and utter dumbass, endangering youself and everyone else on the road. Tower number two is no better, would be ok (ish) if the towed vehicle was loaded correctly but is also an accident looking for a place to happen with it on backwards.
Are they too stupid to realize what looks like a gentle dip in the road could partially unload or even lift the rear wheels of the tow vehicle off the ground? Before someone replies they've done it a million times with no problems, please keep in mind, just because you got away with it does not make your actions safe. Attended more than one accident due to the above in my former towing days. In each case, driver shocked by his vehicle without warning changed direction and crashing.
So as much as I despise govt interference, yes regulations are fine and dandy but there should be a training process and lic to drive around with several thousand pounds on the back of the family truckster.

[Stephen06GT]

Talking to Gary about this last night at it seems to be, at least at this time, a local thing. A new "sherif in town" with a background in traffic enforcement, and a city struggling to keep the lights on and you can surmise the rest.

[ZR]

It doesn't, if it was about safety, would include training and certification to tow larger trailers. As per the norm with govt and their initiatives, seldom if ever address the core problem.

[ZR]

Talking to Gary about this last night at it seems to be, at least at this time, a local thing. A new "sherif in town" with a background in traffic enforcement, and a city struggling to keep the lights on and you can surmise the rest.

All it takes all the while we will continue to see vehicles with no head lights on when the law requires etc.

[IanGTCS]

It doesn't, if it was about safety, would include training and certification to tow larger trailers. As per the norm with govt and their initiatives, seldom if ever address the core problem.

It already does IF the trailer is over 4600kg. Should that limit be lower? As someone with their AR who routinely tows a triaxle float with a bobcat yes, I believe that the limit should be significantly lower.

[ZR]

Be easier to have an opinion as to what (if anything) needs to be done if we had an understanding of how many are involved in some sort of an incident.