200,000km rollback

[Stephen06GT]

I wonder how many more vehicles are out there like this.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/truck-buyer-discovers-digital-odometer-rolled-back-nearly-200-000-km-1.3707613

[5.4MarkVIII]

Takes some know how to do that anymore.

[Das 5.0]

Working in the auto industry I see this allot.

[5.4MarkVIII]

Working in the auto industry I see this allot.

Are they swapping out speedo modules or is it a plug it into the computer type thing?

Years ago I had an old Passat that the speedo didn’t work on. To get the safety I had to change the entire speedo assembly out on. Had to fill out special forms to document the mileage difference.

[RedSN]

How long would you have to run the truck in reverse to roll-back 200,000 km?

[Das 5.0]

I heard they have a computer and plug into the car and roll it back. Manufactures catch it as it as there are multiple ecu’s that read mileage and if they don’t match it shows up when scanned at the dealership.

[mavrrrick]

Wow!!!!


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[Laffs]

That high quality photoshop at end of article is amazing.

[Das 5.0]

There is also mileage cancelling units installed , usually in the cluster (caught one a few weeks ago). At a determined speed driver hits a few steering wheel buttons and the speedo stops working....

[juvehab]

Happens all the time. Lots of guys around that do it $500. As long as it has never been to a dealership there is no real way of knowing the kms. With Honda at least that I know of if you have the vin you can walk into the dealership ask for all the records and see if everything is up to date. I dont think ford and others do it that way it not linked up through their network. Mileage cancelling ones go for $1000 I believe.

[03svt]

Happens all the time. Lots of guys around that do it $500. As long as it has never been to a dealership there is no real way of knowing the kms. With Honda at least that I know of if you have the vin you can walk into the dealership ask for all the records and see if everything is up to date. I dont think ford and others do it that way it not linked up through their network. Mileage cancelling ones go for $1000 I believe.

Crazy, I hate paying new vehicle pricing but least that worry isn't an issue.

[Cloud nine]

This is the reason why I would never buy a used car unless I knew the person that owned the car from day one.

[Cloud nine]

I haven't bought a new (to me) vehicle in a while but when i did I aimed to hit the sweet spot of maximum depreciation while still new/good condition. With most cars they lose 1/2 value in the first 2 years and are still warrantied. Whether 2 years old or 30 years old condition is key for me. New doesn't guarantee no issues, and it's quite a premium to pay.

Each to their own bud. Just look at all the used car lots out there, how many of those cars do you think are legit? I would say 60% and that’s being generous in my eyes. I know from first hand that odometers are being rolled back from leased vehicles and sold at dealerships. Food for thought.

[hsousa88]

Each to their own bud. Just look at all the used car lots out there, how many of those cars do you think are legit? I would say 60% and that’s being generous in my eyes. I know from first hand that odometers are being rolled back from leased vehicles and sold at dealerships. Food for thought.

I really doubt it's that many but who knows.

Bought my truck with 12k km's in 2015, cost half of sticker price. I will never buy a new ride.

[83 5.0]

Does the mileage you record for your sticker show up on the UVIP?

[Old Fart]

I believe it does.

[03svt]

Does the mileage you record for your sticker show up on the UVIP?

Yes it does

[hsousa88]

Does the mileage you record for your sticker show up on the UVIP?

Pretty sure it does.. my fox has some weird mileage history.. 2 owner car, something along the lines of

1996 43,000
2000 49,000
2003 52,000
2005 152,000
2008 54,000

Either it was rolled back, new cluster.. or what I think happened is in '05 the person doing the sticker put the 1 by typo.

Happened to me when I bought it, car had 55,000km's and the lady at the counter punched it in as 155,000km's.. when I mentioned it she apologized and changed it. Wonder if it is still there as 155,000? Who cares! I'm keeping this thing till the day I die.

[ZR]

If everyone buying a used vehicle (who are not in the know when viewing) would stick to the golden rule of having an expert look it over........scammers would be gone in a heart beat. Reminds me of someone who came to us with a couple year old high end, hot selling SUV he was bragging out having bought for (if memory serves) 10 or 15k off what he knows it's worth. First trip to the dealer revealed, former multi branded US vehicle that saw it's vin somehow cleaned up enough through another Canadian province the Ont UVIP didn't show branding nor did it show coming from the US. Long and the short of it, so badly cobbled together it was neither safe nor did it have any real value beyond parts. Trying swallowing that pill on a vehicle you just dropped 50k on.
In case of truck in the article, hard to imagine a work crews truck didn't have a barrage of clear indicators mileage was several times what showed. Not like it was just driving Miss Daisy around.
With all the short term lease vehicles out there these days, just as common to see a genuine low mileage ride that has been used and abused having seen zero maint that is possibly even a worse buy. Only going to have it for a couple or three years so who cares, just like what peeps do when behind the wheel of a daily rental.
Dealer I got the Ram from, salesperson came off as annoyed when I asked to see all paperwork showing it was indeed an internal Chrysler lease and that it had at least seen one oil change + where it had been for the 6 months since coming off the road before I'd sign on ye olde dotted line.
Just like everything else, do your due diligence and more often vs not it'll work out.

[RedSN]

In case of truck in the article, hard to imagine a work crews truck didn't have a barrage of clear indicators mileage was several times what showed.
I was thinking that too, but that work truck that I bought from Justice was high mileage and in pristine shape.

[ZR]

Part of the problem, far too many make vehicle purchases based on mileage only and seem to put the blinders on to the rest. Yes truck you got from Joe was an absolute cherry but did have miles on it. Hell of a deal and it served you well.

[98 Snake]

I always tell people your better off with a vehicle that has higher mileage that has had everything done then low milage that has had nothing done

[ZR]

+1 on the above.

[1BAD92LX]

+2 on the above. I used to think 2 year old just off lease low mileage was the way to go also. After seeing some lease returns here with 0 service history, got me rethinking that theory

[ZR]

Yes little or no service at the mileage that matters most.

[Intmdtr]

bought my ram with 68K on it. fella that traded it in was meticulous on keeping up with the service and the truck still looks brand new.

[Darkhorse]

I agree, there would have been several indications visually that the truck has 200+ on it.

[Clutt gt]

I pity the guy in Michigan that has my 2013 gmc.
I changed oil on time but it towed a 5500lb trailer close to half of the 146,000km on the odometer.
I keepem clean but they work every day.

[Spock]

nothing wrong with that
Although the 6.0 & 6.4 Diesel were crap,I know a few guys that tow heavy equipment all the time & they had few problems.
It was the ones that just idled all day & never worked hard like school buses & daily drivers that had the most stuff go wrong