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ZR
07-10-2017, 10:28 PM
Last time I checked, this was a city ya know..............



TORONTO - Some Toronto residents with a hankering for their own fresh eggs could soon be in luck if city council approves a pilot project that would lift a ban on backyard hens.
Four Toronto wards would be part of the project and comes as part of a motion to review the city's list of prohibited animals, which currently includes chickens.
A survey included in a city staff report filed in May suggested that lifting the ban on chickens could be a popular move.
“There's a lot of benefits, for sure,” said Coun. Justin Di Ciano, whose west-end ward will be part of the pilot project. Home-raised chickens are a healthier alternative to store-bought eggs, he said, and they keep away pests.
He also characterized them as a “cruelty-free” alternative to factory-farmed eggs.
Toronto resident Andrew Patel - who has raised hens in his backyard since 2011 despite the ban - said he's pleased at news.
“I think a pilot project is probably the best way to pass a safe and effective bylaw,” Patel said, adding that such a bylaw wouldn't be difficult to implement.
“We're talking about a couple of people raising a few hens, for non-commercial purposes on private property,” he said.
Meanwhile, several municipalities in Ontario, including Kingston, Brampton, Niagara Falls and Caledon, all allow residents to keep chickens in backyard coops.
In Brampton, for example, current bylaws surrounding chickens state that coops must be no less than eight metres from any dwelling, store or adjacent property, and at least two metres from the side boundary of the property where it's kept. Bramptonians also can't keep chickens inside their home, and must keep any chicken waste in airtight containers “in a manner that will not create a public nuisance or health hazard.”
But chickens in Toronto could attract - and be at the mercy of - other critters known to haunt Toronto, a local expert said.
Dan Frankian, a bird and animal control specialist, said that leaving chickens to roam free in a backyard during the day could attract the attention of scavengers.
“Once the chickens are running around, the food is, too,” Frankian said, which could attract raccoons and coyotes.
Raccoons in particular love eggs, he said, and can break into locked boxes or cages with ease.
“Standard chicken wire is not strong enough to hold those guys,” Frankian said.
But Patel said he has never had a problem with urban wildlife.
“Raccoons aren't brain surgeons - they can't pick a lock or open a hackproof door,” he said. “So I don't think it's an issue that can't be navigated.”
He said his six hens are stored in a coop protected by hardwire, which has smaller holes than a chicken-wire coop.
A survey from a recent city staff report says chickens are among the most complained-about animals on Toronto's prohibited list, alongside sheep, snakes and birds. Objections range from noise to smell.
But Patel said when hens are cared for properly and their bedding is changed, there is not smell. And he added that roosters, not hens, crow.

83 5.0
07-11-2017, 06:00 AM
Glad we pay the councillors well to think this stuff up

ZR
07-11-2017, 07:00 AM
Don't get it either.

5.4MarkVIII
07-11-2017, 07:31 AM
you can tell that they have no idea what they are talking about

"Healthier alternative to store bought eggs"
"Cruelty free compared to factory farms."

Yep sure bunch of idiots. Lol

Definitely better to have them in the back yards raised by ppl who do t know what they are doing.

ZR
07-11-2017, 07:32 AM
^ so you understand their reasoning?? LOL

RedSN
07-11-2017, 08:44 AM
Hey! If they get backyard chickens, I want backyard veal. They're cute, and they stay in their own little hut. You'll never even know they are there.

Mmmmmm, fresh, healthy, delicious veal.

5.4MarkVIII
07-11-2017, 09:12 AM
^ so you understand their reasoning?? LOL

I understand that they think they know what they are talking about. Lol

Chickens are very stupid and also very aggressive.
The reason they are kept in cages on egg farms is because otherwise they will always gang up in the weakest bird killing it off.
If you have 5 chickens is a back yard the strongest 4 will kill off the 5th. Even if it is t sick or Injured. Then the strongest three then two. Until there is only one left.

You can free range them while they are young but once they reach maturity they compete. Unless you have huge area for them to spread out.

The ammonia in their shit is also the worst of all the farm animals.
The the fleas. And the raccoons and skunks. Ect ect ect.

Intmdtr
07-11-2017, 09:43 AM
Tax grab, you will have to register your chickens a $50 a chicken.....

92redragtop
07-11-2017, 10:28 AM
I understand that they think they know what they are talking about. Lol

Chickens are very stupid and also very aggressive.
The reason they are kept in cages on egg farms is because otherwise they will always gang up in the weakest bird killing it off.
If you have 5 chickens is a back yard the strongest 4 will kill off the 5th. Even if it is t sick or Injured. Then the strongest three then two. Until there is only one left.

You can free range them while they are young but once they reach maturity they compete. Unless you have huge area for them to spread out.

The ammonia in their shit is also the worst of all the farm animals.
The the fleas. And the raccoons and skunks. Ect ect ect.

This council proposal is stupid but I assume you had chickens in the yard when you were growing up, and this is personal observation in a natural setting?

Humans do the same thing as chickens when you compress large numbers of us into small spaces and make us compete against each other for resources. Chickens are not supposed to be put in large numbers into spaces as small as this - goes against nature and natural behaviour.

Black Sheep
07-11-2017, 10:53 AM
Toronto = Bangkok

5.4MarkVIII
07-11-2017, 01:10 PM
This council proposal is stupid but I assume you had chickens in the yard when you were growing up, and this is personal observation in a natural setting?

Humans do the same thing as chickens when you compress large numbers of us into small spaces and make us compete against each other for resources. Chickens are not supposed to be put in large numbers into spaces as small as this - goes against nature and natural behaviour.

Yes we raised our own chickens for meat and eggs as well as had a barn full for a local egg farmer.

Ppl freak out when they see how egg farms are. Like many other types of farming but it's done for a reason. They do lack exercise but well fed well watered and live longer than in natural settings.

Far better thanks constant fight to the death scenario.

Snaketamer
07-11-2017, 01:47 PM
A guy in North Bay wants to have chickens in the downtown core for pets/a few eggs...the city said 'no go' according to the bylaw. One thing our council has done right among a sea of fails...

http://https://www.baytoday.ca/local-news/city-squawks-at-grandpas-pet-chickens-574573

92redragtop
07-11-2017, 02:04 PM
Yes we raised our own chickens for meat and eggs as well as had a barn full for a local egg farmer.

Ppl freak out when they see how egg farms are. Like many other types of farming but it's done for a reason. They do lack exercise but well fed well watered and live longer than in natural settings.

Far better thanks constant fight to the death scenario.

Oh ok, we had chickens/chicks at one point in the back yard (many people do in the Caribbean) but they were not crowded into tight spaces (we did not see the factory farming behaviour described although their was a natural pecking order just like with wolves/dogs and groups of people) so their biggest worry was our three German Shepherds wanting to play with them.

RedSN
07-11-2017, 02:34 PM
In Kauai, they encourage tourists to bag as many as they want and take them home.

https://polloplayer.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/kauaichickens1.jpg

92redragtop
07-11-2017, 02:46 PM
LOL, they run free in Key West as well.

92redragtop
07-11-2017, 02:47 PM
In Kauai, they encourage tourists to bag as many as they want and take them home.

https://polloplayer.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/kauaichickens1.jpg

Don't say that too loudly - Toronto councillors will want to take a trip to go get some.

Black Sheep
07-11-2017, 03:46 PM
In Kauai, they encourage tourists to bag as many as they want and take them home.

https://polloplayer.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/kauaichickens1.jpg

yeah,,,saw them all over Oahu and Maui. they are defiantly free ranged there.