Etest Monitors

[OneQwkStang]

Has anyone had any issues getting the catalyst,oxygen sensor and oxygen sensor heater monitors to show ready. Yes I have a etest tune from Paul at STEEDA which he says should pass etest.

[ZR]

Yes but only in cooler weather.

[Stephen06GT]

Waiting for the ones in Ol Paint to go ready. I guess I have to drive it some more.

[NickD]

I had no issues, look up ford e test cycle or something like that and there is a copy from the factory service manual explaining for techs how to get everything ready within 2 drives. Makes it a lot faster doing exactly what they said as each sensor has specified timing speeds etc that need to be met

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[Laffs]

Mine never seem to want to set, and last year started to have a too rich code pop before they would set. Havent even started the car this year but hoping to sort it out.

[ZR]

Once temps hit closer to the 20s, most fly right through the drive cycle. My own, will not complete in cooler weather no matter how far it's driven.

[OneQwkStang]

Once temps hit closer to the 20s, most fly right through the drive cycle. My own, will not complete in cooler weather no matter how far it's driven.

Hmm, wonder if today was too cool? I drove around for an hour..although the EVAP now shows ready.

[ZR]

Evap can be the hardest to see run.

[OneQwkStang]

Evap can be the hardest to see run.

Mine is catalyst,oxygen sensor and oxygen sensor heater monitors. The story is, when Pat Arlia tuned my car (before ODII testing) he said Id likely need an etest tune when OBDII testing comes out. Pat ended up leaving Steeda. I talked to Paul and he said the rear 02s are on in my tunes. Then he sent me a new etest tune saying he tweaked it. But my rear 02s are not going ready and ive got no other codes. So now I ask myself are the rear 02s on, did Paul look, does he even know where to look? Originally im told they are not on, then told they have always been on then sent a tweaked etest tune. Can I take the car to diago and have him check the tune? I need to get it sorted out. As of April 2017 they will o longer issue consecutive conditional passes. If you get 1 conditional your next test in 2 years has to be a pass.

[ZR]

If you've only got one not ready, good to go on test anyways.
It's my understanding, in SCT, another tuner can not see whats been done but best to contact Diago n ask.

[ZR]

It's also very common for rear 02's to be stubborn or just plain will not go ready on customs tunes, running high flow cats and or with long tubes. No personal experience with these but I'm hearing, taking rear 02's out of the mainstream, expands the difference between what the front vs rear 02s see which in turns makes the ECM happy and it goes ready. Had planned to do some testing last summer but never got to it.

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[ZR]

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Have a check engine light in your vehicle for cat efficiency codes due to not having a catalytic convertor on your car, or from a sensitive pcm?If you answered yes, then you need this piece. Its a easy to install, thread in oxygen sensor extender that requires NO tools, and threads into your existing oxygen sensor bung within seconds.
- A very effective tool for avoiding Check Engine Lights. Pulls the Oxygen Sensor further away from the exhaust gas stream.

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- M18 x 1.5 Thread. The sensor to be used with this unit should measure 18mm from thread tip to thread tip. Accepts all standard O2 sensors.

[OneQwkStang]

If you've only got one not ready, good to go on test anyways.
It's my understanding, in SCT, another tuner can not see whats been done but best to contact Diago n ask.

I got 3, catalyst,oxygen sensor and oxygen sensor heater on my last test report that are not ready.

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Model Number: 601904-DEFOULER
Have a check engine light in your vehicle for cat efficiency codes due to not having a catalytic convertor on your car, or from a sensitive pcm?If you answered yes, then you need this piece. Its a easy to install, thread in oxygen sensor extender that requires NO tools, and threads into your existing oxygen sensor bung within seconds.
- A very effective tool for avoiding Check Engine Lights. Pulls the Oxygen Sensor further away from the exhaust gas stream.

- the "J" shape allows the O2 sensor to be installed parallel to the exhaust pipe for better clearance.

- M18 x 1.5 Thread. The sensor to be used with this unit should measure 18mm from thread tip to thread tip. Accepts all standard O2 sensors.


I dont have a check engine light tho.

[Uncle Buck]

Some related info I found useful. I'm not sure the YouTube video is correct but did see my own car with a CEL blinking prior to a drive cycle and now it stays on steady with key on. It's in for a Clean Air Test today. Fingers crossed.

Maybe a sticky on the subject would be handy.

http://www.obdii.com/drivecycleford.html


http://youtu.be/AeSxVS3kWYY

[ZR]

Did you check for monitors readiness first Al?

[Uncle Buck]

Did you check for monitors readiness first Al?

I don't have a OBDII reader other than my SCT X3 and wasn't sure if it shows you monitor readiness.

I used the technique in the video after my drive cycles that suggests if your CEL stays steady in key on but not running position, your monitors are ready.

Just got word from Mrs Buck and the car passed with all 7 applicable monitors ready.

Now just need to do a brake job, fix my ABS issue, install my new to me tires and install the 373's to get ready for track day. Busy busy

[Monera3v]

I don't have a OBDII reader other than my SCT X3 and wasn't sure if it shows you monitor readiness.

I used the technique in the video after my drive cycles that suggests if your CEL stays steady in key on but not running position, your monitors are ready.

Just got word from Mrs Buck and the car passed with all 7 applicable monitors ready.

Now just need to do a brake job, fix my ABS issue, install my new to me tires and install the 373's to get ready for track day. Busy busy

Just out of curiosity,

Who is tunning/ tuned your car?

Someone told me disabling the rear o2, messes with almost 2 - 3 monitors not going ready, someone told me I would have to bug my tuner to re-enable them and write a tuner to pass emission
the car will be sluggest as can be, but will pass obd2 testing.

[Uncle Buck]

I used a remote tuner (Manuel Pazo aka Lito) who supplied me 2 tune files. One for emission testing and one not. Driving both tunes, I find no noticable difference.

[Monera3v]

I used a remote tuner (Manuel Pazo aka Lito) who supplied me 2 tune files. One for emission testing and one not. Driving both tunes, I find no noticable difference.

The Emission tune will throw codes if you go into WOT
The actual tune won't, I think.

I am currently testing out Lito as well, see if what everyone is saying is true about him.

[NickD]

Nope I did the same last year, Lito told me that outside of at the track the tune with the rear 02s on is fine.
Al, you should pick up an obd Bluetooth adapter it shows more then the sct will and can be sourced cheap from China

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[OneQwkStang]

Is it a concern when the shop that tuned your car tells you your rear 02s are off but we will give you an etest tune when the time comes. When the time comes they tell you your rear 02s are on. You drive your car and use an entire tank of gas, call the tuner and he says we are working with a tech in the USA to resolve some issues with our tunes and that the rear 02s will never show ready status, give us a week or two. After two weeks your told to drive the car more?

Are they on, or not? I dont want to drive around for 3 months only to find out they were never on and this guys lost his marbles.

[ZR]

With high flow cats, even with rear 02's turned on and functional, not uncommon for them to never go ready, yes no matter how far you drive. It's also common to have one hell of a time getting EVAP to go ready in the cooler weather, happens to all kinds of makes and models, yes even bone stock daily drivers.
What monitors are still not ready?
Are you in a position to run the stock tune?
What year n mods do you have?
Is all emission equipment in place, hooked up and working?
Working with several guys trying to get etest ready.
If your down to two not ready, conditional test is no longer an option but if you do test n fail, drive at least 30kms over a 24 hr period then go in for retest, they will do a sniffer test provided you still only have two not ready and engine light is off. Pass sniffer test = good to go.
Cold weather makes the problem just that much larger. To get my own to pop the EVAP ready, disconnected oil cooler fan, blocked front of the cooler off, blocked most of the rad off, blocked front of intercooler and pulled fuse for the pump. This brought IAT's up just enough it finally ran n went ready. Confident it would have passed the sniffer test with flying colors (as it did before OBD test) but didn't want them touching my car anymore than absolutely necessary. Got anxious enough watching tech stall it 4 times driving up to the test area.

[Laffs]

Wait you can only have two not ready's to go on and pass the sniffer?

[OneQwkStang]

Catalyst...oxygen sensor and oxygen sensor heater are all showing not ready.

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[Laffs]

Catalyst...oxygen sensor and oxygen sensor heater are all showing not ready.

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Ya sounds like my car, which is because rear 02s disabled.

[ZR]

Wait you can only have two not ready's to go on and pass the sniffer?

According to etest center down the street, yes exactly that.

[Laffs]

According to etest center down the street, yes exactly that.

Well fuck. There goes my plan to have my 3 not readys fail twice and pass a sniffer.

[OneQwkStang]

Well fuck. There goes my plan to have my 3 not readys fail twice and pass a sniffer.
Ya I had the same 3 every year..I just got conditionals. This year as of April 1st, you can get one conditional, the next test in 2 years has to be a pass.

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[Laffs]

Ya. I need to retune for legit pass but you know the issues I had with getting this thing tuned.

[Monera3v]

If rear o2 are off, you will have 3 system automatically, never go ready.
Your tuner will have to enable rear 2 and turn down the sensitivity.
Will you have to drive it for a few hours at FORD recommended cycle drives?
This is considered a legit obd2 pass.

The other choice is to fail twice and get the sniffer.

[Laffs]

I don't have a tuner, so I'd be having an entirely new tune written which is $500 or so I don't want to spend on car right now.

[Spock]

If you do the TSI test & fail you can't go back to OBD-you must pass the TSI
will be a problem with guys with "High Flow " cats

[Laffs]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[Laffs]

Anyone know if 1998-2000 can still have 2 not ready monitors to pass or has that been eliminated as well?

[OneQwkStang]

Anyone know if 1998-2000 can still have 2 not ready monitors to pass or has that been eliminated as well?
Page 7

http://www.downloads.ene.gov.on.ca/envision/env_reg/er/documents/2015/012-3944_Guide.pdf

[Laffs]

Page 7

http://www.downloads.ene.gov.on.ca/envision/env_reg/er/documents/2015/012-3944_Guide.pdf

Thanks man. Wonder what a fail criteria is. Only reason I'm asking is my car is down to just Catalyst not ready so wondering if it would pass.

[ZR]

With only one not ready = full pass with no issues. :)
(so long as engine light is out)

[OneQwkStang]

I'm still waiting for the shop that tunes my car to figure out what's going on. The excuses I'm getting are comical.

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[Laffs]

I have an intermittent high idle that appears to be TPS related, gonna fix that and see if will pass after. Sounds like you're having a real fun time Dre.

[OneQwkStang]

Yes..my last communication with the shop was these cars are very highly modified cars that need to run with emission standards and be able to still make power and it's not the easiest thing to do.

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[Laffs]

I've heard something similar before...

[OneQwkStang]

This is the first for me. I've talked to other tuners who kinda have this puzzled look on their face when I tell them my story.

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[Laffs]

This is the first for me. I've talked to other tuners who kinda have this puzzled look on their face when I tell them my story.

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Was referencing the saga of idle and my car.

[OneQwkStang]

Was referencing the saga of idle and my car.

You just need to take it to a tuner who knows what they're doing. I know who you should avoid....

[Harbinger]

You just need to take it to a tuner who knows what they're doing. I know who you should avoid....
And who would That be?

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[Armen]

This thread makes my head hurt. I wish you all luck in getting this sorted out.

[Armen]

I shouldn't have posted here.

My car spit out a 'random misfire' code yesterday, lol. Into the dealer it goes :D

[Laffs]

One of us, one of us, one of us.....

[Armen]

LoL...



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[OneQwkStang]

STEEDA still can't figure out how to get these highly tuned modified cars to pass emissions. Car was entirely re-tuned by another shop and has an emission tune now loaded. I only drove the car 20 minutes and have no check engine light, however I hooked up my OBDII scanner and see a stored P0430 code. My CAT and EVA tests have still not gone ready. EVA usually goes ready on a long highway drive at about 1/2 a tank of gas. My question is, with this P0430 code stored, but no check engine light and only my CAT monitor not ready will I pass?

Im reading that you have to keep the RPM's low to avoid a check engine light and P0430 code until you get CAT set and the car e etested.

[NickD]

Yes I passed with 1 not ready for evap

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[OneQwkStang]

All emission monitors went READY this morning. STEEDA has been giving me the around around since March saying these vehicles are high performance vehicles that have high horsepower and need to run with emission standards. It is not an easy balance but we are working with a guy in the USA. Give me a few more weeks.
Thank you Da Silva Racing for finding that balance quickly.

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Im still waiting to see if STEEDA can give me the e test tune they promised.