Spring Track Day discussion thread...

[Stephen06GT]

The date has been confirmed, and we are set to hit the track on May 11 (see Club Events for complete details). If you have never been to a track day event, now is the time to book the day off and sign up. You will never believe how much fun it is until you try it. There will be sessions for both beginners and experienced drivers so if you are new to this you won't be alone. If you and your ride are in good, sound mechanical condition then you'll have nothing to worry about. If you have any questions, this is the thread to ask them in. Personally I am sooooo looking forward to this day as it will be the first track day with the new and improved Ol Paint.

See you at the track.

[hsousa88]

Really hoping to make it this year.

Most likely renting a trailer... I've never loaded a car on a trailer so I got some learnin to do.

[98 Snake]

I already booked the day off.
Got some new hawk pads and stoptech rotors to put on and a few other small things and I'm ready.
I normally miss the spring day but not this year lol

[NickD]

Car will likely be appart but I do have a new in box set of 05+ hawk HPS pads if anyone is interested.

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

[RedSN]

Cool. Now I know I have until 11:59 May 10 to get my new springs installed. :D

[ZR]

Signed up yet?

[ZR]

Track day guidelines..............Everything below is to help keep you and everyone else safe.

1. The first and most important rule for the lapping sessions is to remember these are driving sessions - not a race! There are no positions and no prize money or trophies. If you are driving erratic, competitively, or in violation of the rules and procedures, you will be asked to leave with no refund.

2. Track will not provide any official lap times during lapping sessions.

3. There shall be no contact between cars at any time.

4. Do not stop unless disabled on track.

5. Do not tailgate another car.

6. Do not group together on the track.

7. Do not block faster cars that are closing on you.

8. Watch your mirrors, as you must signal faster cars by you.

9. If you suspect serious mechanical problems while on the track, pull off the track slowly and await assistance. If you can continue, do so slowly and return to the pit area. Get off the line and use hand signals and flashers to indicate that you have a problem while returning to the pits.

10. If it starts to rain, slow down to a speed at which you know you can drive safely in the wet. The sessions will continue in the rain unless the track becomes unsafe to do so.

11. If you spin, run off track, or make contact with another car, you must report to the pits prior to continuing the session.

12. Windows all up or all down. Verts (cage or not) must run with top up and properly secured.

13. Helmets optional for hard-top vehicles, mandatory for soft-tops (driver and passenger). Strongly suggested for all vehicles.

14. Passing zones, front and back straights and only after being clearly signaled by the vehicle in front.
No signal = no pass...........no exceptions. No passing anywhere else, yes even if the vehicle in front signals you to do so.

15. When being passed, lift off the throttle, do not turn it into a drag race to the corner

16. Flagman controls all actions on the track via flags. As your coming into the last corner, give a quick glance his way. If black flagged / called in, please report directly to the flag man to discuss (either problem with your driving or perhaps issue with your car). Should you not see the flag with enough time to safely slow down and exit the track, come off on the next one paying special attention to both your car and your driving.


Notes.

~When coming off the track with hot brakes, do not use your parking brake, leave vehicle in gear. Hot pads can and will stick to your rotors

~Should you be black flagged, don't panic. Come in and see the flagman for further instructions.

~Should a vehicle crash or otherwise become disabled, do not run onto the track under any circumstances.

~If your brake pedal is getting soft, safely come off the track and allow them to cool. Only go back on when / if your brakes feel and work as they should.

~If you have, bring a torque wrench to check wheel nuts.

~When exiting the track, signal your intentions either with a hand signal or signal light on your vehicle

~Do not enter the track unless directed to do so via the flagman

~Cars will be divided into two groups. Rookies / Experienced. Flagman will display a flag to indicate which group is out. Please pay attention, do not go out with both groups.

~After each session, good idea to take a look under the hood / under your vehicle for any fluid leaks

~If your in among a group that is clearly faster than you and it's making you uncomfortable, cycle off the track and head over to the flag man, return to the track once the groups passed.

~If your in the experienced group and your finding the pace too fast, you might want to drop down to the rookie group.

~While at least some rookies will be tempted to move up to the faster group, first time out should be about hitting your marks, logging laps and getting experience.

~Remove all loose items from your vehicle including from console, glove box, floor, above your visor (remote door openers or similar). Same for inside the trunk, don't want any 1/4 panel dents from the inside. Remove or fully secure spare tire and jacking equipment.

~No cameras outside your vehicle unless secured to a permanent mount. Inside vehicle must also be either mounted or secured to passengers hand via wrist strap or similar.

~At no time should yours or your passengers hands or arms be out the window.

~No drones permitted, pitts or race track

~Helmets must be worn properly and secured via mfg's strap.

~Have a question, lots of experienced peeps there. Don't be shy about walking up and asking someone. Only stupid question is the one you don't ask.

~Yes we will be doing a parade lap or two for the rookie class. Track looks totally different from the drivers seat, will help you get your bearings.

~Let's all be safe and have fun.

Many thanks to Joe and everyone at DaSilva Racing for organizing this event.............as per the norm, you guys rock!!

[ZR]

^ Did I miss anything or got a question?

[Stephen06GT]

Check your egos at the gate, and remember your car may be fast but it doesn't mean you are.

[RedSN]

Thanks for the reminder. Gotta sign up tomorrow.

[RedSN]

....apparently I needed a few more reminders :facepalm:
finally signed up this morning.

[ZR]

Nicely done.

[ZR]

At the rate things are happening around here, might be lapping in the truck

[RedSN]

ditto.
my "to do" list is getting chopped to simply: change the oil.

[Styrofoam04]

For those of you looking for helmets, I just heard on the radio that Royal distributing is having a Spring No Tax Tent Sale! April 20 - April 30

http://www.royaldistributing.com/event/royal-spring-no-tax-tent-sale/

[Armen]

Registered. Car booked to go in for all new fluids. Will be ready.

[98 Snake]

Front brakes, solid rack bushings, sway bar bushings are done. Waiting for new bilstien rear shocks
Still gotta bed the pads and align then I'm ready.

[ZR]

Time is coming up fasssssssssssssssssssssst.
Got your car looked over plus called to sign up?

[RedSN]

One weekend of wrenching left.
Maybe I should start wrenching.

[Stephen06GT]

Signed up yet?

Yup. Just got off the phone with the fine folks at DaSilva's and me and Ol Paint are all signed up.

[1BAD92LX]

Signed up toady too! I'm ready, car not so much. First ride of the year might be down the front straight of TMP again

[RedSN]

Brake Fluid: what to get? and where to get it? and how much to flush the entire system?

[G-ForceJunkie]

I know DaSilva stocked Motul RBF600 for a while, not sure if they still do. I resorted to buying online this year, because I couldn't find any local (to me) places that carry it. Always heard good things about ATE TYP200 or Superblue, but never used it.

For a full system flush I usually buy 1.5L, but use less than 1L.

[ZR]

SuperBlue has been tough to find for a couple years now because of govt ban (color), suggest ATE TYP200



https://www.tirerack.com/images/product_images/brakes/ate/ate_amberbrakefluid20_600px.jpg

[98 Snake]

I'm registered, did my alignment today but still No shocks ��
They are supposed to be here Tuesday so not sure if I'll have the time to put them in

[98 Snake]

I use mopar dot4 it has worked well for me and is used in the SRT vehicles.

[ZR]

I'm registered, did my alignment today but still No shocks ��
They are supposed to be here Tuesday so not sure if I'll have the time to put them in

No decent mechanics out your way? :)

[98 Snake]

Haha mine is super busy this time of year but I'm Sure he can get me in lol

[ZR]

Date is coming up fast, you signed up yet?

[RedSN]

Date is coming up fast, you done fixing stuff yet?
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[ZR]

E test done and got the sticker today, all I've managed thus far.
New slicks, not available in time, will be on Sammy skidders for this go round.

[ZR]

Huge shift in the weather for this week...............get on the phone to reserve your spot.

BE THERE

[ZR]

Getting acquainted parade lap at TMP for new drivers, yea we got that to.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Az2GUxgDc8&feature=youtu.be

[ZR]

TIME TO CRANK IT UP.......................the experienced group.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63cpwtGIqU0

[ZR]

In car shots, this could be you in the pilot seat (of course not in my car) LOL.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=L8aVxYXa25Q

[1BAD92LX]

Now the track in slow motion

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d5wcvegYgYM

[ZR]

Whats wrong with your car? Turn the wheel and it turns. ;)

[RedSN]

looks pretty quick trying to catch that pesky red cobra


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxXpgxWydME

[Armen]

Oil Change
Brake Fluid change
Transmission fluid flush/change
Rear Dif fluid change.

I'ma ready.

[HyperGT]

i may get the day to join. not sure if i will run given i only just got the car and have driven it 2x

[tulowd]

From the other thread - re weather concerns:

For those of you who have never driven on a track in anger in the rain, its an experience NOT to be missed. Way easier on the car/tires/brakes, and you really find much higher traction limits than you suspect could be possible. Car control skills will be honed much more, the pucker factor is a no charge bonus, and at least it's more consistent than a cold track with hidden and inconsistent variations. Well worth the misery of being cold and damp IMO.

Sadly we're in Philly for the week, so I can't even rent a new SS Camaro to blow out the cobwebs and make Don et al use their blinker every couple of laps :)

[ZR]

^^ Hint hint...............lapping day, not a race.

[RedSN]

....blow out the cobwebs and make Don et al use their blinker every couple of laps :)
we'll miss ya Paul ;)

http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/LX-Markham/TMC/DamnT5_zps7cc29927.gif

[HyperGT]

Driven in rain, mosport big track, shanonville and Silverstone. New car, sport cup 2's = no rain runs for me. Not worth it. Plus top down means car fills up with water .


From the other thread - re weather concerns:

For those of you who have never driven on a track in anger in the rain, its an experience NOT to be missed. Way easier on the car/tires/brakes, and you really find much higher traction limits than you suspect could be possible. Car control skills will be honed much more, the pucker factor is a no charge bonus, and at least it's more consistent than a cold track with hidden and inconsistent variations. Well worth the misery of being cold and damp IMO.

Sadly we're in Philly for the week, so I can't even rent a new SS Camaro to blow out the cobwebs and make Don et al use their blinker every couple of laps :)

[RedSN]

For those of you who have never driven on a track in anger in the rain, its an experience NOT to be missed.
Stayed out an extra lap a few years ago at Mosport, it started to rain. Did a nice 4-wheel drift through 2 ....that was enough for me thank you.

[fast Ed]

Now add dark to that and see what you think! LOL

Seriously though, wet driving at TMP or Mosport DDC is a great way to learn and practice your skills ... teaches you to be extra smooth (if you're paying attention).

cheers
Ed

[HyperGT]

Agree Ed and Paul. I did my 2 day BMW school at Mosport in the rain on day 2 a learned a lot and was a great experience. If I had a dedicated track car i would do it again and again for sure.

[RedSN]

... teaches you to be extra smooth
my drift WAS extra smooth.
Ask Matt ;)


And who started all this talk about rain!? Thursday looks like a nice day!

[98 Snake]

I also did Mosport big track in the rain on my first day on the track. I found I had way more grip then I thought I would with Michelin PSS.

[Windjammer]

Sadly we're in Philly for the week,

Paul I spent last week in Philly. Great city. Lived in the Union League for the week. If you have time check out the Masonic Lodge (free Masons ) on Broad street behind City Hall (around the corner from the convention centre) . Incredible building Gotta see it to believe it

[Mrods]

Signed up today for Thursday. Also paid extra for no rain. So it should be dry and fine.

[tulowd]

we'll miss ya Paul ;)

http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt137/LX-Markham/TMC/DamnT5_zps7cc29927.gif

Lol, break one transmission, and the legend of shortened track days is born. Too bad you don't have any blinker vids bud. :)

Driving in the rain, not sliding one lap, and yes - slow tracks, like Shannonville, DDT and TMP are perfect for learning this skill. I'm talking about a focused, careful intent to learn how to drive on a wet track. Don't need a dedicated car nor rain tires.
Have done half a dozen full days in the rain, one full day on full slicks on a F2000 turbo in the rain. Nothing compares and nothing will give you better lessons in car control and breakaway/reeling it back in.

[ZR]

One more sleep.

[RedSN]

Too bad you don't have any blinker vids bud. :)
I do.
Here's one...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpn__HuG7MM
Here's another one...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFionFFQ9L8
And another....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_s6_VHjddI

Lots of Mach's, can't find one of a black vert. Sorry.

[Armen]

Hopefully the forecast changes back to the sunny and 13 it's been showing for the last several days instead of the cloudy with showers it's showing now.

[ZR]

Showed no rain yesterday n into last night.
Give it an hour, will change back...........I hope.

[Uncle Buck]

My registration must have caused a change in the weather. Sorry guys.

[ZR]

We've seen several low percentage of rain forecasts turn out in our favor.

[RedSN]

It's almost lunchtime, so I'm getting hungry. Which brings up a question: is the concession stand going to be open? or is our gracious host providing lunch again? or do i have to steal one of Rob's sandwiches when he's not looking.

I didn't want to presume lunch was being provided, just wanted to know what I should plan for?

[ZR]

I believe food stand will be open but not positive.

[Frankie]

I'm gonna come by and beg for rides for a bit.
Hopefully have the 86 out there in the fall :(

[ZR]

One more sleep.

[ZR]

Yes you can arrive n pay at the gate.

[fast Ed]

Was hoping to come out to help a bit and do some coaching for anyone that asked, but I need to be at work ... taking Friday off to head up to Calabogie for a 12 hr Chumpcar race on Saturday. :-)

Have fun and be safe out there everyone!

[ZR]

Would have been good to see you Ed but understand.
Enjoy Calabogie.

[Stephen06GT]

Be safe Ed.

[Armen]

That looks better...


http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff276/armenk2000/Misc/cayugaweather2017_zpsdiwvtjgr.jpg

[RedSN]

https://media.giphy.com/media/MOWPkhRAUbR7i/giphy.gif

[1BAD92LX]

What time are the gates open? I think its usually 9?

[Frankie]

Had a blast out there today, man it was cold.
Thanks to Brad and Don for the ride alongs - can't wait for my car to be up and running now!

Hope everything works out for the Cas, speedy recovery!

[RedSN]

Had a blast today, car ran really well, better than I could have hoped seeing as she got no attention over the winter.

Thanks to DaSilva and all the organizers. Stephen, I know you put in a lot of hours getting stuff ready. Ross, once again great job on the flags. Chris, sorry for running you off the road ;)
Frankie, you're more thank welcome, anytime. Cash, glad you're ok.

[Armen]

That's ok Don. It was fun.



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[tulowd]

Am really sorry to hear about am attemdee damaging his ride and having to get himself checked out. Godspeed young man and wishing you 100% health certification upon inspection.

Glad to hear everyone else made out ok, despite some mechanicals......facts of track enjoyment.

Any videos ?

[Armen]

Any videos ?

I have some. I'm going to go thru them today and see what's what. I think Don said he had some too.

[RedSN]

I do, but I think my dashcam is starting to go. Even on hi-def, the picture is grainy.
Got some orange vert footage ;)

[Armen]

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff276/armenk2000/Misc/generallee_zps1v7wla4f.jpg

[RedSN]

^^^LOL, OMG it's even the right colour!

[Ghost Rider]

I beat Don to the track...

[tulowd]

Spoke to _______ this morning. He is ok, CAT scan is perfect and he is in surprisingly good spirits. Great news indeed!

[Whitehot]

gotta always keep your spirits up....

[Mrods]

Rick and Ross; thank you both for managing yesterday's activities. That was bloody amazing! Finally justified all the mods and didn't worry anout going to jail for speeding. Im hooked!

[Stephen06GT]

Rick and Ross; thank you both for managing yesterday's activities. That was bloody amazing! Finally justified all the mods and didn't worry anout going to jail for speeding. Im hooked!

You looked very comfortable out there Mark.

[92redragtop]

You looked very comfortable out there Mark.

Which car?

[RedSN]

The one in his avatar, lol

[92redragtop]

The one in his avatar, lol

LOL, did not notice that!

[Mrods]

You looked very comfortable out there Mark.

Was a little concerned about trashing my vader mobile at first, but after a few laps felt great. The novice intro lap that Rick led was perfect. Basically he was saying"see these cones, drive these lines". I hope that lap is mandatory for all newbies. Thanks again!

[RedSN]

Since there is no instructors like at Mosport, and also no blind corners, yeah the parade lap is a great idea. Drive to the cones and you'll figure out the line. Take it easy, and gradually up your speed as you figure out the braking points. It's a nice little track to learn on.

[ZR]

Agreed, you'd looked great out there Mr.
Takes a bunch of peeps chipping in to make it happen, thank you for coming.
How is the grin?

[Mrods]

My grin will be around for a while. Mosport is next!